$.50/$1 6-Max Zoom PLO Live Session
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I've missed you Phil
Hi Phil, I liked this format!
@19:30 would you bluff this spot without the Kh?
Thank you!
I'm not sure if you mean the turn or the river. It doesn't have a big impact on my turn play. On the river, it's definitely better to bluff without the Kh in my hand, but I think the amount that it's better by will be small enough that I'd play it the same.
49:09, standard fold for you pre?
You mean QJT2sss? It's a standard fold for me, yes.
I don't think you're giving up much by playing it, and if your opponents are weak-tight or are very bad in some other way, you probably should be playing it.
Hi Phil,
I thought the video was fine. An idea for a future video might be a "classroom/theory" video. You talked about leading ranges on low boards and some other type of board (have to go back to that...) and coming from NL I find leading very "awkward".
Cheers and how have you settled into the married lifestyle (if you don't mind asking). :D
I am married for 2 years and some month now :D life is better with someone you love.
Thanks Aquila. I probably won't jump to a theory video soon but I will very much consider it for the not-so-distant future.
Married life is great, ty :)
Great video Phil! As a player working his way up through the lower stakes these help immensely. The northern europeans are probably mad about the nittyness though hehe.
I wanted to ask a general question. Do you think an argument can be made to use a set on a monotone board as a semibluffing hand against some opponents? Would you ever consider doing this without a blocker, or is the whole concept just bad?
Thanks as always for the great content.
Thanks ZeD!
The question you asked is a great one, but it would depend on the situation. I definitely use sets on monotone boards to semibluff. I am more likely to do so in two situations:
1) When there are straight draws present to protect against. This is a nice side-benefit to the semibluff.
2) When I have top set and 2nd set is somewhat likely based on preflop ranges (KK on KQx or AA on AKx). This way you occasionally are pushing a ton of equity.
I definitely don't need a blocker to semibluff with a set. In some spots, your preflop range is so strong that your nut flushes may outnumber your nut flush blockers too much. If you wait for only a NF blocker in those cases, you'll be underbluffing. In other spots, the NF blocker becomes mostly irrelevant based on how they played previous streets.
If you start a semibluff with a set & no blockers, I would suggest not following through on the river unless you have a very good reason to. These become the worst river bluffs in your range since you block two pair and sets (hands he may fold) and you don't block any flushes.
Also what do you think of Pparlour's bet sizing at around 38:00?? What kind of hands (if any) are good to full pot twice on a fairly dry board? What kind of sizing would you use for top set for example?
Another good question, but this time I don't have a great answer. Many of my opponents use full pot as their standard sizing in certain spots. Many don't. I generally don't, but the only reason is that I've gotten very used to how people respond to the betsizes I normally make (less than pot). I fear that potting will change the way the react enough that my intuition will start to fail me.
Before I change my sizings, I'll need a very good reason, and I'll have to plan out how I think people will react and how I should handle it.
I don't think that choosing full pot vs. 2/3 pot (or anything in between, and perhaps smaller) should have a very big impact on your EV. There are plenty of viable strategies.
Hi Phil, @26:20, why not raise the flop with the set of 7s?
I think raising would be overplaying the hand a bit. Yes, I likely have the best hand and it does need some protection, but I prefer to play it slower and be able to induce some bluffs and react to various turns and rivers.
If I raise flop, I'm only going to get much action from hands that have nearly 40% or more equity, and occasionally I will get it in very bad against 65 or 88.
QQ22 on 6987, dont you think villain would bet most of his Tx/5x or A987 type hands on the flop? So our turn bet would make him fold AA,KK,AKQJ type hands
Good question. I think he'd bet a lot of them, but not all.
I generally don't like to start bluffs in spots where I'm only trying to make a couple of hands fold, but this may be a case where it's worth it. I think it's a close decision and I think bluffing is definitely an option.
Hi Phil, I love this format! Continue with it :)
Nice one Phil, @18:00 I'm not sure if you've misread your hand and betting with a pair of 99s but you actually have a 9 high straight..
Wow. I have no idea why I spaced there. Talking and playing is harder than you might think! Good catch.
I found this video and format hugely beneficial as a beginning player. Having only one table gave you room to go through a lot of the basics which is exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you for the video.
Thank you! I'm glad to know it was helpful. I'll make sure to make some more videos like this.
25:00 KQT3ss on J32dd4o BTN vs bb, check back flop because there are a lot of back doors you don’t want to get xr off of. villain leads turn and you fold, if he didn’t lead on the turn what turns would you be bluffing and why?
43:00 JT72hhh on 8d4d2s6c SB vs bb, double barrel bottom pair + gutt on fd board. What rivers are you bluffing and why?
KQT3ss - I think betting any turn 8 or higher and also betting board pairs is a good default. People play these spots very differently (in villain's shoes), but we can usually count on a fair amount of folds once someone opts not to stab the turn.
On 8/9/A, we have good equity to semibluff with.
On K/Q/T/3, we have improved to a likely best hand that can get value (and usually has outs if we are beat).
On J/2 our hand is very weak, but many hands in our opponent's range are as well. I'd expect to get enough folds to make bluffing this spot more profitable than checking back.
JT72hhh - His range to call turn will be largely comprised of pair+gutter+fd or two pair (perhaps with extra equity). With no diamonds in my hand, it increases the likelihood that he has diamonds. I'd bluff almost every non-diamond river that doesn't improve me. I would check on all diamonds.
The offsuit 3/5 are very close either way.
I love the single table & that you play more solid and understandable since it is low stakes.
Thank you very much. It's really helpful to hear when a format works for you guys so I know what to make in the future. GL!
love this new format! :)
Great video, Phil! I like your one or two tabling videos much more than the four tabling videos. Less tables give you more time to explain your decisions and you also have time to go into some basic stuff (like hands to defend the blinds with in this video).
Thanks for the video and hopefully we'll see some more essential PLO videos as soon as possible.
Hi Phil. Great video content for learning a cautious (GTO-style) game of PLO. By high concentration of equity what do you mean exactly?
Thx. in advance
Thank you!
Concentration of equity, put another way, relates to how drastically the flop is likely to change your equity.
Imagine a (fake) scenario where you have 33% equity preflop and will have 33% equity on every flop.
Now compare that to a (fake) scenario where you also have 33% equity preflop, but will have 0% equity on 2/3 flops and 100% equity on 1/3 flops.
It should be clear that the 2nd scenario is preferable, since you can make a lot of money when you hit your great 1/3 flops and can get away cheaply on the other 2/3. This is an extreme example of (highly) concentrated equity.
In practice, you won't get those exact scenarios, but you can imagine hands which "when they flop something, they really flop something."
Some examples of hands that aren't amazing, but have higher concentration of equity are: 8866r, 6543ss, As8s55, 9975ss.
Some hands that also aren't amazing, and may have similar (or more) equity against some ranges, but have lower concentration of equity are: A94s3s, QQ73r, AJT6r,QJ63ss.
With the second group of hands, think about how many flops give you an "okay" hand vs. how many give you a hand you're looking to put a lot of money in with.
Thx Phil for the very detailed and useful explaination :)
Sune
Hope you enyou the married life and really apriciate you taking the time making videos anyway!
Very nice video Phil.
I think you should do more videos on 100/200/500 pool.
Because players have different tendencies on those games, more unbalanced approach(more on 100, less on 500) than on the HS games, where field is way tougher and players usually are playing more aggressive overall.
So on those small/midstakes I would guess that strategies need some adjustments.
Also would be nice if you say on videos what adjustments would you made on your strategy after you see an opponent showdown out of line.
Thx!
Great video, thanks for it. Very useful!!
Hi Phil!
Can you please tell what is your open range (in percentage) according to the position?
I mean in a vacuum situation against unknown players.
If we use the PLO Ranger is it ok to have it like this?
UTG 12%
HJ 17%
CO 35%
BTN 55-60%
SB ?
Thanking you in advance.
Hi Phil,
I think the video format is very good for a beginning PLO player, like myself.
I like that you have enough time in this format to explain why you open/call/fold preflop and then when a more interesting spot happens the postflop analysis.
In my opinion 1 table is fine, because you can always fold until you get a playable hand and then analyze the hand.
Hey Phil,
At 35:35 you 3b a utgrs with T986ds. At the same time you tell that when it had been ss, it is close to a fold against most utg openers.
But say, everybody folds and you ofcourse open raise this hand ss from the button but then get 3b by the bb say with a 12% 3bt. I am pretty sure you'll always call.
So, most of the time, you fold against a 12% utg opener with this hand but you call a 3bt from the bb with a 12% 3bt. (I think a estimation of 12% in boths cases is pretty commen. Or when you give the utgrsr a 14% open and the bb a 10% 3bt, the case of this question becomes even more stronger)
That's actually almost the same. And both times you are in position with the same hand. Actually, against the 3bt you are putting more money in the pot with a hand that is likely behind. So you should expect to fold that hand more often in that situation and call the utgrs more. But wath I see you do (and a lot of other people too) is the other way around.
Can you explain that?
Tom
Hi phil. At around 12:00 u open and called the 3bet OOP with Js2sQx9x is this not too loose to call OOP and with only 1 suit?
Phil, kudos to you !!
I didnt think i would be a fan of your 1 table vid, but it gave me such a clear concise incite in playing PLO. I have been grinding at micro PLO for a year now and ive watched a miriad of vids but this one really "clicked" for me. It was a lightbulb moment and i thank you very very much for taking the time to sit down and play and comment on a single 100PLO table.
I'm hoping to graduate to small stakes in the next few months and then reward myself by upgrading to your ELITE package.
I think runitonce is the single most valuable tool any serious poker player can have.
Kind regards from down under
thewisdom
This is a really great format for me. 1-tabling low stakes and focusing on readless play. Very very useful for a beginner!
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