New Player Pool: 3 Tables $500 Zoom NLHE
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Minute 7:00 table 2 upper right, holding 66.
Are we folding OTF vs cbet because it would be very hard to get to showdown?
On this board his range crush ours given he has every overpair at this point. We are going to face a turn cb very often and we are not going to realize our eq almost never, so its a pretty safe fold imo.
Ty!
Do u think T7s is mostly fold from CO?
24:00 J9h ... I think UTG just has too many hands that can call a check/raise ... would be more costly doing this vs UTG than BN. I think it's just a fold ... we can check raise suited broadway with backdoor flush .. that is higher than T, plus A5s A4s, 56s ... Do u agree j9h, 67s, 78s, 89s, Q9, should be a fold in retrospect?
U also commented that u think his river sizing is a mistake against your polarized range, u are not calling with 9x. What if he exploits that u to bet all ur polarized value hands on the river and left with middle range or complete give ups, therefore would happily call a shove? Also ... there would be some check raise from BB with Tx on flop, are u saying OOP should never overbet Tx on turn? What if he is just targeting Tx or inducing spazz with that sizing? If you hold AA as IP wouldn't u bet?
Right table, KJh ... I like ur segregation of ranges ...PIO probably plays KJh close to pure check ... but that leads to the dilemma a K or J on the turn is devalued ... or a gut shot like T or Q is wasted ..we don't get to realize equity with gut shot ... or we cann't stand two sts of big bet with pair k or J ... in which OOP gets to get to be agressive vs capped range .. a lot of overbet should be going on. My question is against population who do not check raise enough, should we sneakly put this KJh ..KTs .. ish hands into small bet range as well or u still think it's a better play to check back?
Is this Spain & France pool? Does one need to be physically in those countries to play?
Thx for your time.
Hi, thanks for the questions :D.
As we can see, it has a small portion of value with small sizing, the obvius ones, TT and T9s plus a few bluffs.
I wouldn't call a river shove here never, because I don't think he has enough bluffs. The only bluffs I could see here are AQhh, AKhh, QKhh, QJhh and A2hh, and even if there are only 5 combinations, I don't even know if he's bluffing those. I think its a really bad aproach starting calling this very marginal hands by thinking this way. Your life is going to be veery much easier if you just ch some nutted hands, so you don't have to face this situation you are mentioning. Also having Jh make this like our worst bluffcatcher. Having 45s for example would be much better, even if I would fold it anyways.
There is a touch of betting with T9o, and checking all the other ones. T9o are two pair on the river, so I don't have other Tx in my range OTR.
AA is very close, but its a check.
About the KJ hand, its all about your cb strategy. Of course if you are checking this hand, you are also checking small Ax, and a couple FD's. IP's strategy here should be abbout cb something like 50%, not close to 100%, so you should ve well covered on most situations. As more aggresive your oponnent is attacking capped ranges, you should check more stronger hands. Cb small with high freq is still fine.
Yes, it is pokerstars.es, but everyone is allowed to play there, at least for the moment. You just create and account and play :).
Thank you for the great questions!
great reply juan! on j9hh hand, dont we not need to chk nutted hands to protect cuz we dont rly need to worry too much about defending enough bc we follow through the river a lot and him floating wide to get himself in this scenario where we chk riv and overfold, just would just not be profitable?
Sorry fivebet, I'm not understanding the question
Hey Juan,
Table 2 upper right on 30:39, you call 76dd (7 hit and oe) 2 times and on the river the flush of clubs completes and you announce "easy check". Isn't this the perfect overbet bluff spot?
If he can't beat your 7 he is folding anyway but now you loose from all better hands. Your call 2 times on f and t will have that flushdraw in your range and the K on the turn is a perfect card for him to follow through so a lot of the time he will not have a K to hero call your overbet bluff on the river. And he even might fold a K against your overbet there.
Gr. Tom
Hi Tom,
You are saying he's not going to have Kx+ here very often, so why would I bluff with a 7 at this point? A 7 at this point has way too much SD value to be turned into a bluff!
Also you have to be careful with the hands you choose to overbet bluff. If you overbet here you are repping a flush, so, when I pick a bluff, I'll always use combos with one club in it, like 4c6, 5c6, Ac6, or Ac5. If you start overbet bluffing any pair+oesd here you would be overbluffin for sure
great video once again !!
what makes you say your hand suffers a lot frrom c/r with 87 on 7629 at 16min? how do you know or chk for that?
at 30min, with jj, do u bet this hand and chk aa/kk on qqt5, are we block betting riv cuz cant go big on river id think.... i usually bet chk bet here, is that line very inferior?
also, are u checking most rivers with qt on t329 in last hand of vid? why not use jt qt and chk turn if they cant shove most rivers? or can they?
Hi!
- What I was trying to say, is that we have to be careful in 3b pots when people start checking this type of boards, because they might have a very agressive c/r strategy and very value heavy. So if that's the case maybe checking more often this kind of hands seems to be fine. I put this on PIO, and OOP is cb like 60% way less than I expected, so if our oponent is a strategy similar to this, 78s is a bet 75% of the times. At lower stakes you might bet this hand very often, because I don't think many people is c/r overpairs. But at higher you play, you have to be careful against some profiles.
I think betting turn with JJ here is important, our hand still needs some protection (cant value on A or K), and we might loose value against Tx KJ, AJ, AXcc, some PPs maybe aswell. With JJ you are also blocking he's most probable bluffs like J9s J8s KJo AJo, so we have to bet here.
QTo hand, I think this one is pretty close, and we can wo either way. Turn 9d opens a lot of draws, and thats why I decide to keep betting, giving he might be still calling here very wide, like any pair or even some Ahighs, plus the BDFD's hands. We can not value bet the river, we would be checking, and depending on the villain calling or folding (probly calling :D).
hey juan!! great vid!! on min 28:07 whit J9 suited..
1 - Would you consider this river bet heavy weigthed toward value heavy hands ? i think you have a good price for calling some times and folding most of the times.
2 - How you can control your frecuencies here in order to not being exploitable by end up calling to much?
3 - would you consider from his part making some chip bluffs whit hands like FD or BACK DOOR FLUSH DRAW at some frecuency? you unblock any A FD & backdoor FD so he might have every combination of them!!
Hi martin
- I don't know the player, so it's kind of dificult to make this assumption. Some players might bluff with this sizing their AQhh, AKhh, QKhh, QJhh and A2hh, some other players don't. Given I don't know too much the playerpool, I tend to see this more like a valuebet heavy size, but I might be wrong.
- I think in this spot is quite easy not to overcall. If you take a look at the range we c/r + pot turn, is very strong, and we are not arriving to the river with many 1pair hands-, we have straights, sets, and maybe some hands like 45s, 35s or 9xhh.
I'm gonna quote myself:
ok!! ty very much for the answers
Juan Pastor
min. 11.42, 89s btn vs bb
using PIO i can see that BB need have a really difficoult defense like: 18x/r 50call 31fold
Why on this texture we dont cbet our fullrange 1/3 or 1/4 pot?
you have 2 overcard then the flop 2nd pair and a gusthot +villain defence are really difficoult.
So can you tell me how check is better? I can image that on your limits have a multiple size strategy flop is necessary, but in texture like that?
Thanks! I really like your videos :)
hey 89s probably played as mixed check and big betting on flop, more weight for betting spade and club. I'm not sure betting small with this combo accomplish much.
River is just a mandatory bluff ... both player arrive river with some Ax ... unblocking 2-6, and k,Q is good for bluffing here.
Hi krisss,
I checked this on PIO an it is a 100% cb board for the IP player, so you are right! Anyways mixing some checks is totally fine, and our hand is one of the best candidates to check if we decide yo have a checking range here.
Juan Pastor in the final part of the video you ask what we want to see.
Personally I want a small videos series of limping the EP/MP.
In the first videos you tell us that this strategy work good especially vs players who dont know how to do versus it.
So..I think that this strategy work well on 100z 200z then 500z, correct? :)
thanks! :)
hey Juan I would love to see some short handed play or theory and an outline of differences from 6 max. I cann't find material on such topic on this site.
Thx.
Hey Juan,
on 33. minute with 97s when u OB OTT. You say doing this with a GS is OK, what is your plan OTR regarding bluffing? you would probably also bet JT like this which makes it a good bluff blocking AJ and AT, but are those really our opponents bluff-catching hands as with a J or a T he blocks a lot of your bluffs (J9, JT, KJ, KT, T9)?
So my guess is that you would bluff a river where you block a straight? lets say on this A5Q 8 board, the river is a T, you would bluff that with 97s? or with JT, blocking the AT? But I am also interested what do you do on blank rivers like a 2,3,5,(6,7,8) with hands like KT, KJ, JT.
I thank you for your answer in advance.
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