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4 Table 6-Max $1/$2 Zoom NLHE Session (part 1)

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POSTED Sep 15, 2014

Taking a break from the theoretical side of teaching, James fires up 4 tables of and walks you through his thought processes as he battles the $1/$2 Zoom player pool.

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ohgodwhy 10 years, 7 months ago

Wow, the JJ I couldn't fold vs a halfstacker shoving over an UTG open. I feel like you crush his range too much because I'd heavily discount at least KK+, probably also QQ and put him more on big broadways or mid pairs he doesn't wanna play postflop with. I think I'd fold TT and AQ also because of the other players behind but JJ I couldn't get away from.

And I also find it interesting that you openfold 87o OTB. I had a phase where I was even raising down to 32o (25NL tho) and am looking to play a lot tighter now. Meanwhile I'd always fold 54o and lower, even 65o with tough blinds but everything higher than that looks like too good of a hand to not have in my BTN opening range. I don't even think the borderling BTN opens need to show a profit in itself as long as they allow you to play a wider range and therefore guarantee better payoff of your big hands.

I'm interested to hear why you disagree on that. ;)

james 10 years, 7 months ago
If you're playing nl25 there's almost no chance that people are paying you off more than they already would due to the fact that you're opening a wider range on the button. One reason alone is that the player pool will be so big that they likely won't even notice.

The JJ hand, if I remember correctly, there were still people to act behind me as well the guys who had already put money in the pot to worry about. If it's making me money there i doubt it's much to be honest but I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong.


doncamatic 10 years, 7 months ago

Did you end up running the sim on the A3hh hand in 3b pot where turn and river villain checks? Feels like a check to me as the most likely hands to call us are KK or a Queen and those hands aren't cbetting very often on the flop. Would be interested to see if the sim confirms that.

james 10 years, 7 months ago
Based on the sim I did it looks like it's probably close if villain checks his top pair + hands 50% of the time on the river and occasionally bets some Qx and KK type hands on the flop. I think villain is fairly unlikely to check as high as 50% of his value hands on the river but I'm unsure vs an unknown how often we're likely to see a hand like KK bet the flop. It seems likely to me that it should be a value bet unless villain is especially tricky.


Live_your_dreams85 10 years, 7 months ago

20:00 A3hh I think that is a good spot to check your notes and stats to see what his range could look like in that spot and how Showdownable he is.. Ie If he goes to showdown like 30% plus then I like to bet there when check to  twice, If villain on the other hand a showdown of 20s% and has a stronger check back range consisting of Ax I like to see a check back.

james 10 years, 7 months ago
Good comment. That's exactly what I'd normally do but I had very few hands on villain to make this decision with.


Cozacu 10 years, 6 months ago

I think after playing this hand you should take a note on villain. He 3bet you 4x from blinds vs BU w 92s, then played once and done on AQxx.

As a general rule, I think I would bet river vs fishier players that go a lot to showdown, and x behind vs most of the regs that are totally capable to checking 2str with a better Ax, get tricky with big hands or bluff raise you on river because of your caped range.

Keijo92 10 years, 7 months ago

@31:30, You fold KTs from SB against BTN 2,5x open? Was that a missclick or is it standard for you? Standard for me is to 3-bet to 9 blinds from there.


Anyways, good video as always! :)

FamilyPot 10 years, 7 months ago

Great vid Its definitely refreshing to get some action videos and not just some theoretical powerpoint presentations.


18:15 A3s:

You say you defend this vs everyone. I wonder what your calling range here is, I mean Im assuming you call the good offsuit broadways and all the suited broadways+ some PP's+ some good SC's.

I feel that if I go down with my suited aces all the way to A3s then Im calling too much here? I prefer to have it in my 4betting bluffing range. Whats the bottom of your defending range here?

Obv its also correlated to you BTN opening range 


james 10 years, 7 months ago
How wide are you opening the button? It sounds like you're either opening the button with quite a tight range or folding a bunch to 3 bets.


pokerjay 10 years, 7 months ago

Great video! you explain yourself very well. Such a sick spot kk vs aq aaqkx. Can you explain how you loose the min with just a call on the river?

james 10 years, 7 months ago

When a player who seems kind of fishy comes to life with the turn check minraise it's usually bad news for us unless you're holding the nuts. It's tempting to raise the river when he uses such small sizing but I'm generally more cautious than most in those kinds of spots.

Cozacu 10 years, 6 months ago

As you said min`raise from fishier player (especially at lower limits) is almost always the nuts or second nuts. I like the call behind on river. It's always better to be wrong and miss a bit of value, then shove be wrong and then smash your keyboard or start going on tilt. (slowly and steadily)


vincentmu 10 years, 7 months ago

Hi Hudson ,I am playing nl25 now and want to move up to nl50. Two questions, do u think nl50 won't be that difficult because the rake is smaller? People usually give limp reraise a lot of credit, do u think I could have a limp reraise range which contains some suited connecters or others?

james 10 years, 7 months ago
Hey, I doubt that the rake gets THAT much smaller going from 25nl to 50nl. Also, limping has yet to be shown to be an effective strategy by almost anyone at any stakes so I doubt it's something that you want to spend time on at 25/50nl trying to perfect.


GazzyB123 10 years, 6 months ago

Hi James, really liked the video, I like the Zoom series you do, so keep 'em coming! Only comment I really have is that you seem to run super bad any time you make a video...

Ondra Machálek 10 years, 6 months ago

Hi, nice video! One thing that Im curious about is why do you 3x from all positions and then 2x from the button? Wouldnt it make more sense to go down with your sizing in each position, so for example 3x utg and sb, 2,75x mp, 2,4x co and 2x btn?

james 10 years, 6 months ago
It's more of a convenience thing and I'd likely keep using the wrong sizing out of habit. Also, I don't have any reason to believe that having my sizing change like that is necessarily more +ev than the one I'm using.


lofigr 10 years, 5 months ago

"One" question please (nice vid btw).

Seems like our (standard) play with 2overs(Broadways) and FD on board like 9d9c6c type of flop ( 2 cards of same tune + paired board on flop) IP vs blind is to c-bet ( having KcJc: 13:16).
Also we/you overbet on brick turn after he c-c flop and checked turn.

note) We also c-bet OOP with KTcc on 9h2h9c (14:55)

Qs) What do we try to rep at 7:45 having KTo (no hearts) on 88h7h Jh board after checking back flop IP?
In other words: Shouldn't we c-bet our 8 or FD+2overs or OE+ or OP OTF?
On brick river card 4 we also bet when he c-c turn...
Is there any merit to overbet to increase our FE in this spot if we have pure air and can we accomplish anything further at all after not c-betting flop in this hand?
Are we VB-ing KhJ OTT and OTR in spots like this one (I think that KhJ should be the bottom of our VB-ing range in this spot if at all...) ?
Thanks

james 10 years, 5 months ago

My play on these boards might not be terribly balanced but most people aren't checking twice with very strong ranges so I shouldn't get messed with a ton. If I do run into players who check raise turns more then I'll be less often for protection, bluff less when I can't rep very strong, and check back some decent draws and some strong value hands. With the K10 hand we're basically just repping some Jx that we checked back. I don't love the idea of overbetting in spots where we're perceived to have capped ranges because we're likely to get messed with or at least feel like we are. Finally, KJ should be an easy bet-bet given that villain has checked twice in that situation and didn't raise the turn.

If you mess around in CREV or Flopzilla you'll see that ranges get considerably weaker once we start removing nutted hands from them (sounds dumb to type that but it's not always immediately obvious). So for instance, when villain doesn't check raise the turn or lead it himself we can take a big chunk of the hands that beat KJ out of his range. Conversely, if villain had gone bet-bet on the turn and river our KJ would just be a bluff catcher because all of villain's straights, flushes, boats, trips etc are all still in his range.

Knoxox 10 years, 1 month ago

Great video!
At 22:59 top right. You call a x/r with A2s no BDFD and you say you can peel one. What turns are you continuing on (obviously A, 2, and bluff on hearts?) ? His x/r was 6% which means it's often only for value so sets/2pairs. Aren't you leaking money by calling flop and folding turn? Especially against such a valueheavy range?

Also at 31:36 bottom left. You fold KTs in the SB vs a BTN open. Isn't this a profitable 3bet especially when BTNs Foldto3bet = 75 (If I'm seeing this right?). It has great playability and blockers.

james 10 years, 1 month ago

Question 1: I should probably just 3 bet the flop or fold with my hand.

Question 2: Button's stats are over a small sample but his opening frequency was pretty tight at 37% so I chose to fold. I think 3 betting, folding and calling all have merit depending on your strategy in these spots and villains in question.

Slava Brat 9 years, 11 months ago

Hello. Question about AQo hand on 29:30. You calling the turn with AQ on K99x board with the intention of bliffing almost any river. Since AQ has decent SD value, why do you choose exactly this hand to call and then stab? If he bets river, you fold. If you bet river, he will fold or call with better hand. There is no single outcome on desicion tree in which SD value of your hand is realised, so picking this hand over others doesnt change EV of your line at all, unless you hit your outs. Doesn't it make more sense to check it behind on the river?

james 9 years, 11 months ago

I think folding the turn is the way to go here but if I do call I should probably show down unless the river is something like a Jack or a ten where I should be able to fold villain off of smaller pairs that might have just bet turn for protection (I doubt they use that sizing on the turn though). I think bluffing flush rivers also has merit here if I call turn because I should have basically no air in my range once I get checked to on a flush river providing that I'm not turning pairs into bluffs. As far as picking this hand, it's got live out vs a lot of villain's check flop/bet turn range and blocks some of villain's stronger flop checks. I still think folding turn would be fine though unless villain is 3 betting a ton in this spot.

Chris Bowling 9 years, 10 months ago

At 1:39, why did you flat KQo in the SB vs a CO raise instead of 3bet? Normally I just always 3bet it vs the CO, and interested in your reasoning on flatting it in this particular circumstance?

james 9 years, 10 months ago

I would normally 3 bet too but if I'm going to have a flatting range in this spot (which I guess I did at the time) then I'm going to want to have some KQ/AJ type stuff so that my range isn't too pocket pair heavy.

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