Cliff
- 72s is quite standard defend against any 2.5x open from button
- it's okay to 1.5x bluff turn and give up on bad river
- 3 bet or fold small pocket pairs in bb vs button
- 54s is a loose call on button against a HJ open
- cold 4 betting AJ, AQ is cool
- against a min raise bb vs sb, we aint folding shit
- when holding AA on paired board in 3 bet pot, start with small size 1/3, 3/4 pot on turn and jam river, but dont do it when they have a set.
- when op say "strong check", it means bad check
- when our range is polarized bet bigger for value
Great video, love your thought process. Please make more of those.
Can you critique Azn1nvas1on's play or style a little more? ie, the QQ turn call against your QJss, the 76dd that didn't 3 bet flop but choose to shove turn when you have 94. and also the JJ hand on J2277 that he checked all the way to the river. How do you adjust against him given the way he plays those 3 hands.
I don't think he played any of those hands bad or whatever, if he wants to use a raisingrange on the turn in the 94 vs 67dd hand than he can obv include 67dd. And I liked the way he played JJ.
Only hand that's probably more debatable is the QQ call, after a c/r and a call behind him I would say the call is probably going to be bad, but I won't make any strong adjustments based on these 3 hands alone.
Nice vid teunuss,
5'50 : bottom left - table 3, i never know how to choose my bluff river, and i'm sure i completely underbluff this spot when a lot of draws missed and i don't expect to have a lot of FE on vilain. Can we overbet the river too ? Isn't a little bit too agressive to double overbet here, vilain could check some good hands flop if we're doing that too often no ? I like the sizing turn btw. I ask this question cuz i think i'll bet with QJ by default vs a good reg (we block some second pair) .
19'50 : top right - table 2 - does we have enough bluffs for shoving the river ? We have hit a pair with our combos of JT/QT, QJ got there. Thx
-I think we still have plenty of good bluffs left, I would say all 67/J9/QJ/79/J7/69 without s/h should be good potential blufs here, so I don't think we have to be worried about underbluffing.
-This is indeed a spot where it's more likely we will not have that many blufs, I think bluffing with 67/78s will be very optimistic, I would consider all combo's of AQ a very decent bluf tho.
You defend any two suited cards in bb vs btn, but you dont open any 2 suited cards on the btn IP vs the blinds? like the 82 suited u folded because u said they defended ver wide and good
Well in general I think callin our big blind a little wider than opening the button makes sense, because even though we are IP, we are facing two players, and in the big blind we are closing the action getting a good price.
great video. really good content.
at 3 min with K2, dont you think he will bluff river with QJ JT QT combos that are off suit? or do you think that these won't cbet flop all the time or won't always barrel without a club?
at 21min, with AA, what bluffs do you use on the turn on 995K that you have in your squeezing range? and hands that will bluff river on river T?
also at 21min, with AK, if you're squeezing range is KQs, JJ+ AQs+ AK+, what hands do you use as bluffs (or are you just pushing equity with these hands?) do you use like Axs? If this is the case, then do you bet all your AK as bluffs till river on Q52r and bluff jam river clubs with a A or K of clubs in hand and bluff jam river blanks with non-A/K clubs? If you have some Axs too that you bluff, do you barrel those off as well? and I'm assuming u use AK as bluff because its one of only misses or is it more cuz it block AQ/KQ? in his spot, what does ur river calling range look like? 55/22 if call pre and do you call all AQ? .... i notice in more 9max and 10max cash games live when ranges are tighter that i find myself wanting to bluff AK in the spot you did, given i squeeze with mostly strong hands and its hard to balance a checking range with such a small range (including JJ+,Kqs,AQs,AK and some Axs to squeeze) and prefer to barrel it. Thoughts?
at 26min, with KJ and he call QT on Q96K6, u say the T blocks the straight so decent call but it also blocks off suit combos T8 and T7 that will def bet turn with a double gut shot. I think in this case, given theres 32 combos of t8 and t7 and only 16 of JT, we actually dont want to have a ten in our hand.
at 31min, what other hands do you c/r? are you doing this with AA/KK and sets? and what other bluffs do you use? Just high equity draws? do you have to just use high equity draws bc their ranges hit this board hard?
at 35min, with 77 on 865r, you use this as a raise/call as well as 87s and 76s, I'm guessing to balance with some sets. if this is your range, i think he has to bet/fold nearly all over pairs given you're equity of your range versus them. So, would you ever mix in some raise/folds?
at 37min, what do you think of his turn jam with 76s versus your 94s? how would you choose between calling and jamming in his spot?
on the last hand with KxJh, how do approach check/raises in this spot? Do you bet/fold hands like KT no heart on flop? I assume u call twice with a set and fold river unimproved given its lack of blockers, but its tough to find great blockers because each heart blocks flushes but also blocks bluffs (since he will be semi bluffing with 1 heart hands and always barreling with this blocker himself. How do you approach call downs? And from his perspective, what hands shud be c/r bluffing? AhX is a reasonable c/r and barrel but it can just call HU with SD value. For value, do you raise the nut flushes in his spot or lower flushes (they need protection but can get value cut). In his spot, do you think all of his c/r hands will barrel and jam river?
Thanks a lot.
-Exactly, I think he will def not barrel all the QJ/TJ/QT combo's without a club on the turn, so I think on this runout he will probably lack having a lot of potential bluffs.
-AA hand: I like QKo/AJo as blufs, and on this runout I indeed will be bluffing AK combo's without a c, and on club runout AK with Ac/Kc. I am not really squeezing too often with Axs anyway. And I agree with you that with this narrow range we mostly want to play it aggressively.
-His call with QT... Yes that might be true, him having the Tc is not that great, but most Qx that check behind are good blufcatchers here being high enough in his range.
-QJss, yes basically just high eq draws and KK+, I think it makes sense to have a c/r range because we don't really want to cbet this spot alot and clearly want to protect versus their ranges quite a bit.
-77 I in this specific spot I don't think we have many potential bluffs, or we would just randomly raise some broadways but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
The only hand that might be interested in a r/f could be 9T, I think the spot is pretty good when bb checks and utg could still stab with a wide enouh range.
-67 commented on this before
-KJ is surely really interesting, and these spots really make my brain hurt. Pretty much because of all the reasons you named. I don't think he will c/r the flop with the Ah too much, since it just plays well as a c/c c/c c/R most of the time.
So I would say he is c/ring some lower flushes and balances it with the type of hand(s) he showed up with here. I would also assume that he will very likely use a small c/r range on the flop that just continues close to a 100% of the time on turn and river.
As far as calldowns: On this runout it's kind of easy: Just calldown with straight+ should be good.
On blank runouts it becomes really tough, and I think it's also hard to come up with a great strategy using crev or something because making assumptions on someones range in this spot is very hard to do. In general I would say calling down fairly tight would be the way to go against how I think people play this spot, but I guess this isn't great advice to you.
at 29.00, you turn Q9 into a bluff on the river on AQ6KT. Don't you think that you would have enough 6x (or even worse Qx) to bluff here so that Q9 is probably just a check back? Aren't you opening like any Qxs on BTN? Do you think Q9 has any more showdown value than worse Qx/6x?
15:50 A5o | What are your thoughts on turning our hand into a bluff and leading the R?
-he's likely capped,
-if he bets, he's mostly going for thin value,
-we block 55/56/57/J5 type of hands,
-we can XC either pair + FD or FD + 2OvC sometimes, as well as occasional sets/2pair (would you agree?)
-we can represent a wider range by leading than by XR,
-if he's capped, he's going to XB a lot, so leading forces some of his XB range to call, and by XR, we look kinda sketchy, no?
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It would be great if you could compare leading/XR - not necessarily with this hand, but how would you approach this spot in general if you were to choose between the two lines.
Your assumptions are indeed correct, he is capped and we will def have some strong hands in our flop x/c range, because this is a flop that is favourable for the bb I will be doing a lot of checking otf.
But I don't really agree with betting the river, I think the ev of a check will be higher since we have decent showdownvalue, I don't think betting accomplishes much, because I find it hard to beleive we will ever make him fold a 7 or even 6x. We will still win against some random giveups and 2x, which makes me think check is better. Also combine that with the fact that we have plenty of other hands/weaker hands to bluff with.
I don't see how the 57o is a call on the river. Seems like an easy fold vs most players and you would only call vs maniacs that would turn Jx into a bluff there. Didn't work out the exact math but you would need to be calling a lot less so that you would chop the pot enough times to not be losing huge there.
Agree with you guys, even tho it feels lame to fold 7x here, I can't think of any opponent that would be bluffing enough here that should make me call 7x.
Super Teanuss, please make more videos under the category, "live action - Post audio , those are the best ones!! . thanks in advance and just keep been awesome mate!
What is your total cbet IP position stat?
And as i understand you are cbetting 100% IP on boards like 772r with a small sizing?
Also want to join a taaaz question, when you are playing 3b/fold strategy from SB, what's your 3bet percentage vs for example 17% EP open, or 22% MP open.
Can you elaborate more on your three bet sizing from the blinds? If I understand correctly, you choose a smaller sizing from the SB because your range is much wider and a larger sizing from the bb since you are more polarized. Thanks.
Possibly one of the toughest games i have ever seen which makes these videos priceless. Very good explanation and will follow all your videos. One hand which interested me was the JJ in bb vs MP open @43mins. Villain had been super active, getting in light vs you and just stacked you house vs house the hand before. Could we not justify a 3bet here for value and be cool with getting it in? Was the reason we didn't due to stack size? If 100bb is this more of a straight forward 5b spot?
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Cliff
- 72s is quite standard defend against any 2.5x open from button
- it's okay to 1.5x bluff turn and give up on bad river
- 3 bet or fold small pocket pairs in bb vs button
- 54s is a loose call on button against a HJ open
- cold 4 betting AJ, AQ is cool
- against a min raise bb vs sb, we aint folding shit
- when holding AA on paired board in 3 bet pot, start with small size 1/3, 3/4 pot on turn and jam river, but dont do it when they have a set.
- when op say "strong check", it means bad check
- when our range is polarized bet bigger for value
Great video, love your thought process. Please make more of those.
Can you critique Azn1nvas1on's play or style a little more? ie, the QQ turn call against your QJss, the 76dd that didn't 3 bet flop but choose to shove turn when you have 94. and also the JJ hand on J2277 that he checked all the way to the river. How do you adjust against him given the way he plays those 3 hands.
Thank you very much
Haha pretty decent cliffs :)
I don't think he played any of those hands bad or whatever, if he wants to use a raisingrange on the turn in the 94 vs 67dd hand than he can obv include 67dd. And I liked the way he played JJ.
Only hand that's probably more debatable is the QQ call, after a c/r and a call behind him I would say the call is probably going to be bad, but I won't make any strong adjustments based on these 3 hands alone.
Nice vid teunuss,
5'50 : bottom left - table 3, i never know how to choose my bluff river, and i'm sure i completely underbluff this spot when a lot of draws missed and i don't expect to have a lot of FE on vilain. Can we overbet the river too ? Isn't a little bit too agressive to double overbet here, vilain could check some good hands flop if we're doing that too often no ? I like the sizing turn btw. I ask this question cuz i think i'll bet with QJ by default vs a good reg (we block some second pair) .
19'50 : top right - table 2 - does we have enough bluffs for shoving the river ? We have hit a pair with our combos of JT/QT, QJ got there. Thx
Thanks,
-I think we still have plenty of good bluffs left, I would say all 67/J9/QJ/79/J7/69 without s/h should be good potential blufs here, so I don't think we have to be worried about underbluffing.
-This is indeed a spot where it's more likely we will not have that many blufs, I think bluffing with 67/78s will be very optimistic, I would consider all combo's of AQ a very decent bluf tho.
Really enjoyed this video, thanks.
You have a really big head. Does your neck ever hurt?
You defend any two suited cards in bb vs btn, but you dont open any 2 suited cards on the btn IP vs the blinds? like the 82 suited u folded because u said they defended ver wide and good
Well in general I think callin our big blind a little wider than opening the button makes sense, because even though we are IP, we are facing two players, and in the big blind we are closing the action getting a good price.
Greath video as always. When you play a 3 bet or fold strategy in the SB, this is just vs button opens right?
In a non-ante game I play a 3b or fold strategy vs all positions in the sb.
@teunuss:
I don't want to ask you about the exact ranges, but how much would you advice us to defend in general vs EP/MP opens? (say, vs 15-20%)
I would say somewhere around 8-12%
Can't really justify this too much with calculations and stuff since preflop is just unsolvable
great video. really good content.
at 3 min with K2, dont you think he will bluff river with QJ JT QT combos that are off suit? or do you think that these won't cbet flop all the time or won't always barrel without a club?
at 21min, with AA, what bluffs do you use on the turn on 995K that you have in your squeezing range? and hands that will bluff river on river T?
also at 21min, with AK, if you're squeezing range is KQs, JJ+ AQs+ AK+, what hands do you use as bluffs (or are you just pushing equity with these hands?) do you use like Axs? If this is the case, then do you bet all your AK as bluffs till river on Q52r and bluff jam river clubs with a A or K of clubs in hand and bluff jam river blanks with non-A/K clubs? If you have some Axs too that you bluff, do you barrel those off as well? and I'm assuming u use AK as bluff because its one of only misses or is it more cuz it block AQ/KQ? in his spot, what does ur river calling range look like? 55/22 if call pre and do you call all AQ? .... i notice in more 9max and 10max cash games live when ranges are tighter that i find myself wanting to bluff AK in the spot you did, given i squeeze with mostly strong hands and its hard to balance a checking range with such a small range (including JJ+,Kqs,AQs,AK and some Axs to squeeze) and prefer to barrel it. Thoughts?
at 26min, with KJ and he call QT on Q96K6, u say the T blocks the straight so decent call but it also blocks off suit combos T8 and T7 that will def bet turn with a double gut shot. I think in this case, given theres 32 combos of t8 and t7 and only 16 of JT, we actually dont want to have a ten in our hand.
at 31min, what other hands do you c/r? are you doing this with AA/KK and sets? and what other bluffs do you use? Just high equity draws? do you have to just use high equity draws bc their ranges hit this board hard?
at 35min, with 77 on 865r, you use this as a raise/call as well as 87s and 76s, I'm guessing to balance with some sets. if this is your range, i think he has to bet/fold nearly all over pairs given you're equity of your range versus them. So, would you ever mix in some raise/folds?
at 37min, what do you think of his turn jam with 76s versus your 94s? how would you choose between calling and jamming in his spot?
on the last hand with KxJh, how do approach check/raises in this spot? Do you bet/fold hands like KT no heart on flop? I assume u call twice with a set and fold river unimproved given its lack of blockers, but its tough to find great blockers because each heart blocks flushes but also blocks bluffs (since he will be semi bluffing with 1 heart hands and always barreling with this blocker himself. How do you approach call downs? And from his perspective, what hands shud be c/r bluffing? AhX is a reasonable c/r and barrel but it can just call HU with SD value. For value, do you raise the nut flushes in his spot or lower flushes (they need protection but can get value cut). In his spot, do you think all of his c/r hands will barrel and jam river?
Thanks a lot.
Thanks, quite a few questions there ;)
-Exactly, I think he will def not barrel all the QJ/TJ/QT combo's without a club on the turn, so I think on this runout he will probably lack having a lot of potential bluffs.
-AA hand: I like QKo/AJo as blufs, and on this runout I indeed will be bluffing AK combo's without a c, and on club runout AK with Ac/Kc. I am not really squeezing too often with Axs anyway. And I agree with you that with this narrow range we mostly want to play it aggressively.
-His call with QT... Yes that might be true, him having the Tc is not that great, but most Qx that check behind are good blufcatchers here being high enough in his range.
-QJss, yes basically just high eq draws and KK+, I think it makes sense to have a c/r range because we don't really want to cbet this spot alot and clearly want to protect versus their ranges quite a bit.
-77 I in this specific spot I don't think we have many potential bluffs, or we would just randomly raise some broadways but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
The only hand that might be interested in a r/f could be 9T, I think the spot is pretty good when bb checks and utg could still stab with a wide enouh range.
-67 commented on this before
-KJ is surely really interesting, and these spots really make my brain hurt. Pretty much because of all the reasons you named. I don't think he will c/r the flop with the Ah too much, since it just plays well as a c/c c/c c/R most of the time.
So I would say he is c/ring some lower flushes and balances it with the type of hand(s) he showed up with here. I would also assume that he will very likely use a small c/r range on the flop that just continues close to a 100% of the time on turn and river.
As far as calldowns: On this runout it's kind of easy: Just calldown with straight+ should be good.
On blank runouts it becomes really tough, and I think it's also hard to come up with a great strategy using crev or something because making assumptions on someones range in this spot is very hard to do. In general I would say calling down fairly tight would be the way to go against how I think people play this spot, but I guess this isn't great advice to you.
Hope I answered most of your questions!
very interesting, thanks!
at 29.00, you turn Q9 into a bluff on the river on AQ6KT. Don't you think that you would have enough 6x (or even worse Qx) to bluff here so that Q9 is probably just a check back? Aren't you opening like any Qxs on BTN? Do you think Q9 has any more showdown value than worse Qx/6x?
i enjoyed the vid a lot, thank you!
15:50 A5o | What are your thoughts on turning our hand into a bluff and leading the R?
-he's likely capped,
-if he bets, he's mostly going for thin value,
-we block 55/56/57/J5 type of hands,
-we can XC either pair + FD or FD + 2OvC sometimes, as well as occasional sets/2pair (would you agree?)
-we can represent a wider range by leading than by XR,
-if he's capped, he's going to XB a lot, so leading forces some of his XB range to call, and by XR, we look kinda sketchy, no?
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It would be great if you could compare leading/XR - not necessarily with this hand, but how would you approach this spot in general if you were to choose between the two lines.
Thanks a lot!
Your assumptions are indeed correct, he is capped and we will def have some strong hands in our flop x/c range, because this is a flop that is favourable for the bb I will be doing a lot of checking otf.
But I don't really agree with betting the river, I think the ev of a check will be higher since we have decent showdownvalue, I don't think betting accomplishes much, because I find it hard to beleive we will ever make him fold a 7 or even 6x. We will still win against some random giveups and 2x, which makes me think check is better. Also combine that with the fact that we have plenty of other hands/weaker hands to bluff with.
you are a beasttttt sir!!! please keep making this awesome videos, i am emailing Phil as we speak cuz as if you stop making videos, i am out !!
That river call with 7x is burning money. Nice vid
I don't see how the 57o is a call on the river. Seems like an easy fold vs most players and you would only call vs maniacs that would turn Jx into a bluff there. Didn't work out the exact math but you would need to be calling a lot less so that you would chop the pot enough times to not be losing huge there.
Agree with you guys, even tho it feels lame to fold 7x here, I can't think of any opponent that would be bluffing enough here that should make me call 7x.
Super Teanuss, please make more videos under the category, "live action - Post audio , those are the best ones!! . thanks in advance and just keep been awesome mate!
Awesome video, really like your thought process.
What is your total cbet IP position stat?
And as i understand you are cbetting 100% IP on boards like 772r with a small sizing?
Also want to join a taaaz question, when you are playing 3b/fold strategy from SB, what's your 3bet percentage vs for example 17% EP open, or 22% MP open.
-Not sure how this will really help you but it's around 57%
-Correct!
And I answered him couple of questions above !
Great vid!
I like that you are a liverpool/Saurez fan almost as much as the content.
See you on the vrtual felts
Can you elaborate more on your three bet sizing from the blinds? If I understand correctly, you choose a smaller sizing from the SB because your range is much wider and a larger sizing from the bb since you are more polarized. Thanks.
Because I 3bet a stronger/ more linear range from the small blind, and a polarized range from the bb, not necessarily wider tho.
Possibly one of the toughest games i have ever seen which makes these videos priceless. Very good explanation and will follow all your videos. One hand which interested me was the JJ in bb vs MP open @43mins. Villain had been super active, getting in light vs you and just stacked you house vs house the hand before. Could we not justify a 3bet here for value and be cool with getting it in? Was the reason we didn't due to stack size? If 100bb is this more of a straight forward 5b spot?
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