At ~9:00 minutes you 3bet 87cc from the small blind and then flat a cold 4bet from the big blind. I have been folding this type of hand mostly thinking that it doesn't make the cut for top ~50% of my 3bet range and therefore doesn't need to be defended. This helps me avoid the type of tough spot you were in but leaves my 4bet flatting range with very poor board coverage for mid-rank and low-rank flops. Do you think that having a more balanced 4bet flatting range is worth the downside of playing these weaker hands in big pots out of position?
Curious to hear what Teneuss says. I forget where I heard this, but not playing hands just to avoid tough spots < learning to play these tough spots better. With that said, I still feel like 78c is too loose for me without a solid read. I think Teneuss probably had one. I think 89s is the very bottom of my range and to be honest I probably fold that some of the time too, T9s is a call for me. My games are a lot different than his with less 3-betting/4-betting so I guess I do tend to flat a slightly stronger range in general. With the aggressive dynamic of his games this might be a call, I'd like to hear him explain it too.
What is the smallest SPR you would take to the streets here to a normal size xbet? It seems like this is borderline to me and some would say is just a 5b or fold decision.
As far as preflop, like I alredy said I wasn't sure about the decision ingame at all.
It looks like I have around 33% equity against his range, and we need 31% equity to call.
So purely equity wise the call is fine, but we are obviously out of position and we will not be realizing the close to 100% of our equity, so it seems like you are correct to fold here.
As far as suited connectors go, the equity difference between 78s and JTs is fairly small, but R will increase so I think defending 9Ts+ is fine.
AhJ ~ 21:00 on 6h5c2h xx. Qh b/c. Ko xbc. You mention you like raising quite some rivers vs a bet. So I'm wondering how you play your FD's & Ahx on the flop*, don't we bet a lot of them, and therefore can be quite unbalanced by raising the river, but surely we don't have a lot of naked FD's we call either on the turn, (Ah:J,T) ~ 8 combos mostly. So surely we'll have more flushcombos vs Ah blockers on the river. Same question regarding the actual line where you bet big vs a check, guess as you mentioned we don't have that many bluffs
A7hh ~ min 44:00. Call 3bet flop Kd9h5d, you call a 100/150 cbet. Mind explaing this call a bit more, seems very thin to me at first?
I was interested in this spot on my own, and by playing every AhXh this way(checking flop, to call turn and raise every blank river with AhXo and AhXh you're going to have 7 combos, gave him every Ah2h - AhJh, and then AhJx (AhJd, AhJs,AhJc) 3 combos and AhTx 3 combos(6 combos of bluffs). So given villain checks to us on the river and we fire, we're going to have even more value combos assuming we're betting KQ+ (9 combos) or better, making it total 16 value combos, and only 7 bluff combos. Assuming we don't call 3bets wider than ATo preflop, if we do, then we're only going to be more bluff heavy on the river. Hope that helped, obviously Teunuss can tell us more about it if I'm incorrect.
I am certainly checking a good percentage of the stronger nutflushdraws which have decent showdownvalue already, that don't have as many incentives to bet flop as a other flushdraws. AhJx does seem like a hand that can surely start betting flop already though.
Other things are already mentioned by Everize!
You are correct, I thought it would make sense to call most of my Ahxh hands but against this sizing we certainly don't have to be calling that wide, we are easily calling over half of the time if we leave out all the AJhh-A2hh (exception of A5hh ofc), so certainly a mistake by me.
Min 23. You make a cbet with 99. I don't understand why the best option for our range is to bet small and merge. I can't see enough hands that want to protect in this board.
Min 30. 3barrels in squeeze/farha pot. What kind of hands arrive to the river as a bluff?
I don't think it's necessarily the case that we merge, I picked this sizing because of our range advantage in this spot, and therefore by betting small we can bet closer to fullrange and do a lot of protection betting.
The difference in EV for my range between the two sizings seems fairly small, the 'perfect' betsizing is certainly larger than what I picked ingame. But you could argue that a strategy of smaller flopcbet is easier to play and we will certainly not make as many mistakes so that could make up for the fact that we give up a small bit of ev.
the AK hand, we are probably shoving around 9 combo's of value (mainly AK obv). So the best combo's to add will be AQ combo's without hearts.
Hey teunuss.
25.55 JTs hand. I'm not sure that u want to shove AJ type of hands OTR. I mean V has all AK combos that potcontrolling turn/bluffcatching river. There is not a lot of value of shoving AJ Imo. I would bet on the smaller side with all my Ax for thinner value/blocking bet vs AK as well with my bluffs. He probably doesn't fold Ax against any size bet... so why we shoving?
I think I agree with you, ingame I was also debating whether to pick a smaller sizing or not. I don't think we really have to worry about him having a lot of AK combo's that potcontroll, because those combo's have a big incentive to shove turn. Like I said we don't even have that many bluffs, and have all the AQ/AJ combo's that are indeed interested in getting some thin value (especially AJ is somewhat thin), so it certainly makes sense for my valuerange to bet smaller, so I totally agree with you.
Min 30 with AK
What does our shoving range look like on river? How many AA combos should we use? What hands should we c/c with?
curious to what hands we show up with to squeeze pre and CB turn and riv.
Given our flop cb is heavily discounted bc we are facing a strong range. I think when we decide to bet flop with AQ with a heart in it, we should shove all heart rivers, and half the time on this particular river
Around 24 mins we open KQhh 2.5x mp and bb fun player calls, we check back AsQs6c, and call half pot on 2sss, but fold pretty quickly to half on Jd. This seems pretty close to me, jus because im sure were betting most of our Ax on the flop altho im sure we got some in our check back range. Also we dont block a spade that he could jus bet turn and barrel river with. Additionally we block KT and some two pairs with the Q. As far as better hands we can have, like QJs, maybe JJ (but that might jus fold turn since we check back Qx and some Ax right), and maybe some 6Xss.
Isnt KQhh gonna end up being a call on the river vs a half pot bet?
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At ~9:00 minutes you 3bet 87cc from the small blind and then flat a cold 4bet from the big blind. I have been folding this type of hand mostly thinking that it doesn't make the cut for top ~50% of my 3bet range and therefore doesn't need to be defended. This helps me avoid the type of tough spot you were in but leaves my 4bet flatting range with very poor board coverage for mid-rank and low-rank flops. Do you think that having a more balanced 4bet flatting range is worth the downside of playing these weaker hands in big pots out of position?
Curious to hear what Teneuss says. I forget where I heard this, but not playing hands just to avoid tough spots < learning to play these tough spots better. With that said, I still feel like 78c is too loose for me without a solid read. I think Teneuss probably had one. I think 89s is the very bottom of my range and to be honest I probably fold that some of the time too, T9s is a call for me. My games are a lot different than his with less 3-betting/4-betting so I guess I do tend to flat a slightly stronger range in general. With the aggressive dynamic of his games this might be a call, I'd like to hear him explain it too.
What is the smallest SPR you would take to the streets here to a normal size xbet? It seems like this is borderline to me and some would say is just a 5b or fold decision.
As far as preflop, like I alredy said I wasn't sure about the decision ingame at all.
It looks like I have around 33% equity against his range, and we need 31% equity to call.
So purely equity wise the call is fine, but we are obviously out of position and we will not be realizing the close to 100% of our equity, so it seems like you are correct to fold here.
As far as suited connectors go, the equity difference between 78s and JTs is fairly small, but R will increase so I think defending 9Ts+ is fine.
AhJ ~ 21:00 on 6h5c2h xx. Qh b/c. Ko xbc. You mention you like raising quite some rivers vs a bet. So I'm wondering how you play your FD's & Ahx on the flop*, don't we bet a lot of them, and therefore can be quite unbalanced by raising the river, but surely we don't have a lot of naked FD's we call either on the turn, (Ah:J,T) ~ 8 combos mostly. So surely we'll have more flushcombos vs Ah blockers on the river. Same question regarding the actual line where you bet big vs a check, guess as you mentioned we don't have that many bluffs
A7hh ~ min 44:00. Call 3bet flop Kd9h5d, you call a 100/150 cbet. Mind explaing this call a bit more, seems very thin to me at first?
Think you make great videos, thanks a bunch!
I was interested in this spot on my own, and by playing every AhXh this way(checking flop, to call turn and raise every blank river with AhXo and AhXh you're going to have 7 combos, gave him every Ah2h - AhJh, and then AhJx (AhJd, AhJs,AhJc) 3 combos and AhTx 3 combos(6 combos of bluffs). So given villain checks to us on the river and we fire, we're going to have even more value combos assuming we're betting KQ+ (9 combos) or better, making it total 16 value combos, and only 7 bluff combos. Assuming we don't call 3bets wider than ATo preflop, if we do, then we're only going to be more bluff heavy on the river. Hope that helped, obviously Teunuss can tell us more about it if I'm incorrect.
Thanks!
I am certainly checking a good percentage of the stronger nutflushdraws which have decent showdownvalue already, that don't have as many incentives to bet flop as a other flushdraws. AhJx does seem like a hand that can surely start betting flop already though.
Other things are already mentioned by Everize!
You are correct, I thought it would make sense to call most of my Ahxh hands but against this sizing we certainly don't have to be calling that wide, we are easily calling over half of the time if we leave out all the AJhh-A2hh (exception of A5hh ofc), so certainly a mistake by me.
Hello.
Min 23. You make a cbet with 99. I don't understand why the best option for our range is to bet small and merge. I can't see enough hands that want to protect in this board.
Min 30. 3barrels in squeeze/farha pot. What kind of hands arrive to the river as a bluff?
Thanks
I don't think it's necessarily the case that we merge, I picked this sizing because of our range advantage in this spot, and therefore by betting small we can bet closer to fullrange and do a lot of protection betting.
The difference in EV for my range between the two sizings seems fairly small, the 'perfect' betsizing is certainly larger than what I picked ingame. But you could argue that a strategy of smaller flopcbet is easier to play and we will certainly not make as many mistakes so that could make up for the fact that we give up a small bit of ev.
the AK hand, we are probably shoving around 9 combo's of value (mainly AK obv). So the best combo's to add will be AQ combo's without hearts.
Hey teunuss.
25.55 JTs hand. I'm not sure that u want to shove AJ type of hands OTR. I mean V has all AK combos that potcontrolling turn/bluffcatching river. There is not a lot of value of shoving AJ Imo. I would bet on the smaller side with all my Ax for thinner value/blocking bet vs AK as well with my bluffs. He probably doesn't fold Ax against any size bet... so why we shoving?
I think I agree with you, ingame I was also debating whether to pick a smaller sizing or not. I don't think we really have to worry about him having a lot of AK combo's that potcontroll, because those combo's have a big incentive to shove turn. Like I said we don't even have that many bluffs, and have all the AQ/AJ combo's that are indeed interested in getting some thin value (especially AJ is somewhat thin), so it certainly makes sense for my valuerange to bet smaller, so I totally agree with you.
So, I wait "Like" ;)
Min 30 with AK
What does our shoving range look like on river? How many AA combos should we use? What hands should we c/c with?
curious to what hands we show up with to squeeze pre and CB turn and riv.
Given our flop cb is heavily discounted bc we are facing a strong range. I think when we decide to bet flop with AQ with a heart in it, we should shove all heart rivers, and half the time on this particular river
44:30 mark why do you size your CB 1/3 pot with A9ss on 674ss.
Hello boss,
Around 24 mins we open KQhh 2.5x mp and bb fun player calls, we check back AsQs6c, and call half pot on 2sss, but fold pretty quickly to half on Jd. This seems pretty close to me, jus because im sure were betting most of our Ax on the flop altho im sure we got some in our check back range. Also we dont block a spade that he could jus bet turn and barrel river with. Additionally we block KT and some two pairs with the Q. As far as better hands we can have, like QJs, maybe JJ (but that might jus fold turn since we check back Qx and some Ax right), and maybe some 6Xss.
Isnt KQhh gonna end up being a call on the river vs a half pot bet?
Thanks,
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