Very nice to see how you change gears when you play with different type of players. Dynamics with regulars was very fun to watch, and there is much to learn.
Thanks for the great video! For me it's a special value because I play this limit a lot. I like your comments. And I feel myself like a movie star (joined the action at the end of your vid) lol And thanks you put nSharks guy on massive tilt and left him for us lol Hope you make some more, it's really really useful and a lot to learn.
There are a number of factors that come into it, including: what I think villain's range looks like, his stacking off range, what my hand looks like on various turn cards (AK on AK7 will always be top two OTT, whereas T6 on T62 won't be), how easily I can improve (so do I have a gutter, backdoors, overcards to better top twos etc.?), and what the SPR is.
For the hand in question, it was a pretty clear raise for me. The SPR was reasonably low at around 4 because of villain's preflop 3-bet, his range was heavily weighted away from hands that beat me and the board was one where I could expect a lot of action from a portion of his range that I had in bad shape (AA and KK). I also felt that those hands I wanted to stack off were far likelier to give action if I raised now rather than waited for the turn when a card bringing a straight could hit (9, T, J), I could boat up (pretty sure he folds a Q at least), or he could simply slow down fearful of me having or turning two pair+.
How about turning those tournament announcements off when recording video. They are very annoying. Options-->Tournament Announcements-->Block Pop-Up and Chat Announcements
Thanks
Tom Coldwell10 years, 10 months agoLol, I didn't even know you could do this. This will improve my life when not recording videos as well as when recording so thanks for pointing it out!
Jep It helped me confirming me thoughs of your thoughprocess thx, but I think a vlaid reason here to raise two pair is also for blancing our raising stack off range eg. deporalising it, so Villian can't exploit us by reraising only bluff(with good blockers)?
1) At as small an SPR as that, and on a board that dry, Q8 is basically the nuts as it'll be very rare I make a better hand (pretty much only well connected 88 and QQ hands - 8876ds, QQT9ss etc. - and the occasional double pairs) + villain won't have more than 1 pair often either. Therefore, I don't think I depolarise myself here 'cas this is very close to the top of my range..
2) We're too shallow for me to be raise/folding here. I am never pot/folding this spot, even if I decide to raise really light (T986ss perhaps) so I don't think it's possible to exploit me by re-raise bluffing 'cas he has literally 0 fold equity. At this point in the hand, he simply has to decide if he has sufficient equity against my jamming range to go with it or not.
38.42 upper left table: Are you checking behind here 100% of your range? - If so, aren't you value cutting yourself from Ahxh, flushes and your sets. Are you checking behind here because you don't wan't to get c/r by his hands that contains Ah??
thx.
Tom Coldwell10 years, 10 months agoNo, I'm not checking back my entire range here, although exactly which portions I bet will depend on my view of villain. My main consideration w/ a Qflush is to extract value, but I do have to be careful not to overplay the third nuts against a range including many suited Aces and Kings on a board where the majority of his worse hands will be complete air (or one pair which is the same thing).
As such, we need to consider what we expect villain to do in this spot if we bet flop and my assumption is he'll call or raise all his flushes (with his raises being almost exclusively nut flushes), call all his sets (of which there are very few) except potentially those w/ a nut heart blocker which he might semi-bluff, raise most of his naked nut blocker/second nut blocker hands, raise some small percentage of his air, call some percentage of his wraps (of which there aren't that many), call some two pair + straight draw hands (again, reasonably infrequent), and fold most of his complete misses/single pair hands.
The problem is that I feel most of his range consists of bigger flushes, big flush blockers, and misses. That isn't a range that I wanna bet against too much 'cas I'm getting a lot of folds (sad, I have a hand which has him drawing nearly dead) or I'm getting raised which puts me in a super uncomfortable spot. What I preferred to do was keep the pot smaller, thus giving myself the chance to pick up money against his air by inducing bluffs, make it harder for him to use his blockers against me (I'm calling down if he leads twice and check/raising isn't that credible anymore 'cas most people won't hand read me for a big flush and play their big flushes in that manner).
All that said, I don't think betting flop would be a losing play (he'll fold so much that you'll clearly make money), I just felt that I could get more money from his air-heavy range (air being defined as one pair or less) by checking the flop.
@10:50 bottom left you chk raise bluff the river on KKhT4hA – what are you repping and what do you think your opponents range consists of? Seems like once he chks back flop IP, he is fairly capped (IE very unlikely he has Kx or full houses, I think it’s a fluke he showed up with that this time), so when the turn comes BD FD it seems like his flop chk back-call turn range consists of a lot of Axhh draws and QJxx draws (maybe with a T as well) so I think I like bluffing the river on blanks as you said. When the A comes on the river, that gives Axhh a pair which probably checks back, and QJxx a str8 which probably bets, so it seems like his river betting range is QJxx heavy – so are we expecting random villains to bet-fold str8’s on this river here with only $17 behind? Seems pretty optimistic idk
Tom Coldwell10 years, 10 months agoLooking back, I was just trying to win the pot on a card that I think credibly gives me a few super strong hands (he can perceive me as having AK, AA, KT etc. here I would think. Also, lots of players just get scared of river raises and assume they're nut hands 'cas at these stakes so many players don't bluff). And yes, I do think I have a decent chunk of FE against QJ here, although honestly I think I was more interested in the fact he bet small giving me room to try and win the pot than anything else.
I'm certainly no fan of leading to bluff here 'cas, as you pointed out, he has a lot of Ah*h and QJ hands, neither of which want to fold to me if I just lead out (I would think, he may fold Ah*h but people get clingy for a single bet).
All in all, I don't think this was a brilliantly planned or executed hand, more a "Oooo, chance to win the pot, I shove."
Tom Coldwell10 years, 10 months agoYour welcome - always good to be made think about plays I make, especially ones like this which are probably pretty bad. I actually think one of my bigger leaks is an over-willingness to bluff on cards which are "good for my range" in my head (seriously, my range here is too wide for the A to mean THAT much) against players who probably don't intend to fold nearly as much as I'd need them to.
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gotta love your being diplomatic: "I have this guy marked down as green which means he is a fish... at least in my opinion" ;)
Nice vid Tom. Really good one.
Very nice to see how you change gears when you play with different type of players. Dynamics with regulars was very fun to watch, and there is much to learn.
Thanks for the great video! For me it's a special value because I play this limit a lot. I like your comments. And I feel myself like a movie star (joined the action at the end of your vid) lol And thanks you put nSharks guy on massive tilt and left him for us lol Hope you make some more, it's really really useful and a lot to learn.
Love it! Glad you enjoyed the video, although not nearly as much that you enjoyed a fire-tilted villain - that's made my afternoon :)
Awesome vid Tom! Thanks for switching it up, its good to see non zoom plo videos, keep up the good work!
Another great video Tom!
25:09 lower left table; how do you distinguish between calling or raising top two pair on dry flops? what made you raise and not calling?
There are a number of factors that come into it, including: what I think villain's range looks like, his stacking off range, what my hand looks like on various turn cards (AK on AK7 will always be top two OTT, whereas T6 on T62 won't be), how easily I can improve (so do I have a gutter, backdoors, overcards to better top twos etc.?), and what the SPR is.
For the hand in question, it was a pretty clear raise for me. The SPR was reasonably low at around 4 because of villain's preflop 3-bet, his range was heavily weighted away from hands that beat me and the board was one where I could expect a lot of action from a portion of his range that I had in bad shape (AA and KK). I also felt that those hands I wanted to stack off were far likelier to give action if I raised now rather than waited for the turn when a card bringing a straight could hit (9, T, J), I could boat up (pretty sure he folds a Q at least), or he could simply slow down fearful of me having or turning two pair+.
Hope that helps.
How about turning those tournament announcements off when recording video. They are very annoying. Options-->Tournament Announcements-->Block Pop-Up and Chat Announcements
Thanks
Jep It helped me confirming me thoughs of your thoughprocess thx, but I think a vlaid reason here to raise two pair is also for blancing our raising stack off range eg. deporalising it, so Villian can't exploit us by reraising only bluff(with good blockers)?
1) At as small an SPR as that, and on a board that dry, Q8 is basically the nuts as it'll be very rare I make a better hand (pretty much only well connected 88 and QQ hands - 8876ds, QQT9ss etc. - and the occasional double pairs) + villain won't have more than 1 pair often either. Therefore, I don't think I depolarise myself here 'cas this is very close to the top of my range..
2) We're too shallow for me to be raise/folding here. I am never pot/folding this spot, even if I decide to raise really light (T986ss perhaps) so I don't think it's possible to exploit me by re-raise bluffing 'cas he has literally 0 fold equity. At this point in the hand, he simply has to decide if he has sufficient equity against my jamming range to go with it or not.
hi tom
i had a q in an old vid of yours (calculating ev). you couldnt do us a huge fave and have a look at it
tho i may try and watch this vid soon so may have some q's related to this 1 :)
got it thx.
38.42 upper left table: Are you checking behind here 100% of your range? - If so, aren't you value cutting yourself from Ahxh, flushes and your sets. Are you checking behind here because you don't wan't to get c/r by his hands that contains Ah??
thx.
As such, we need to consider what we expect villain to do in this spot if we bet flop and my assumption is he'll call or raise all his flushes (with his raises being almost exclusively nut flushes), call all his sets (of which there are very few) except potentially those w/ a nut heart blocker which he might semi-bluff, raise most of his naked nut blocker/second nut blocker hands, raise some small percentage of his air, call some percentage of his wraps (of which there aren't that many), call some two pair + straight draw hands (again, reasonably infrequent), and fold most of his complete misses/single pair hands.
The problem is that I feel most of his range consists of bigger flushes, big flush blockers, and misses. That isn't a range that I wanna bet against too much 'cas I'm getting a lot of folds (sad, I have a hand which has him drawing nearly dead) or I'm getting raised which puts me in a super uncomfortable spot. What I preferred to do was keep the pot smaller, thus giving myself the chance to pick up money against his air by inducing bluffs, make it harder for him to use his blockers against me (I'm calling down if he leads twice and check/raising isn't that credible anymore 'cas most people won't hand read me for a big flush and play their big flushes in that manner).
All that said, I don't think betting flop would be a losing play (he'll fold so much that you'll clearly make money), I just felt that I could get more money from his air-heavy range (air being defined as one pair or less) by checking the flop.
ok makes a lot of sense now
Hey tom thx 4 the vid - keep em coming as always
@10:50 bottom left you chk raise bluff the river on KKhT4hA – what are you
repping and what do you think your opponents range consists of? Seems like once he chks back flop IP, he is
fairly capped (IE very unlikely he has Kx or full houses, I think it’s a fluke
he showed up with that this time), so when the turn comes BD FD it seems like
his flop chk back-call turn range consists of a lot of Axhh draws and QJxx
draws (maybe with a T as well) so I think I like bluffing the river on blanks
as you said. When the A comes on the
river, that gives Axhh a pair which probably checks back, and QJxx a str8 which
probably bets, so it seems like his river betting range is QJxx heavy – so are
we expecting random villains to bet-fold str8’s on this river here with only
$17 behind? Seems pretty optimistic idk
I'm certainly no fan of leading to bluff here 'cas, as you pointed out, he has a lot of Ah*h and QJ hands, neither of which want to fold to me if I just lead out (I would think, he may fold Ah*h but people get clingy for a single bet).
All in all, I don't think this was a brilliantly planned or executed hand, more a "Oooo, chance to win the pot, I shove."
tx 4 the response tom
Very nice vid. I liked it more than the zoom ones. Tks!
"NewmanAus is a tight player....." :D good one!
Thanks Tom,really enjoyed!
Hahaha, Villians turn bet from the hand starting in the top left screen at 21:14
"Yeahhhh, good for you"
Thanks for the great video man, I took down alot of great notes
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