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4 Table $1/$2 6-Max Zoom NLHE Live Session

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James Hudson

POSTED Jun 30, 2014

James turns off the HUD and relies on his his own perception as he battle the $1/$2 Zoom player pool.

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Theories 10 years, 8 months ago

4:51 bottom right you fold Q9dd utg, I have been out of holdem cash games for a long time, but isnt that a open? Your thoughts on why you folded, also you folded QJo hijack moments before that, I thought that would also be a open, or is this the correct way to play zoom holdem games? REally would appreciate your feedback.

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
Q9s isn't going to be open for utg unless the table is really soft/there's fish in the blinds etc but hudless I'm definitely not opening that. QJo in the hijack is close.


Theories 10 years, 8 months ago

NVM, killed the vid after you folded KK, gl, sad to think poker is that dead...

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
I almost didn't put the video out due to the KK fold and the fact that I expected these kind of comments. I think the spot is a lot closer than you think though when you actually look at the action and stack sizes combined with the play of the average 1-2 player.


Coolio 10 years, 8 months ago

@Theories. The KK fold is painful, but totally fine. Your other comment above has already demonstrated your ignorance of the game cash environment.

xxHaZ 10 years, 8 months ago

Hi James,

Been watching your vids for a while now. I understand from the SB you're basically playing a 3b or fold strategy. This is simple enough. Could you briefly explain your strategy from the BB?

Some confusion I've been having recently is when to flat MW when receiving such great odds on a call versus when to squeeze and reduce all the dampeners playing OOP MW may have on our EV. Without completely defined ranges my thought process is basically: "do I significantly raise my preflop EV by 3 betting compared to a cc?" and I look for some criteria to be met like fold equity, potential isolation vs fish, large cc/fold to 3b stats, etc. How do you go about doing this? 

Also, the more cc's to squeeze over the less success our hand needs to work as a 3b, so we can essentially widen our squeeze range and include more hands to do this with... so from my understanding it might make more sense to slot some of our weaker hands we'll usually defend with by cc-ing HU into a 3b sq range... and keep our hands with robust equity potential (PP's/suited hands) intact. 

CO opens, BU calls, when do you cc KQo (or AJo) in the BB and when do you 3b it?

Thanks (great work btw)


James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
Hey, glad you liked the video. Generally I'm going to be making those fringe decisions over whether to call or squeeze based on the opener's RFI % and the other players' CC% and fold to 3 bet %. If everyone's splashing around preflop then we're generally going to have profitable squeeze opportunities but if the opener is tight and the players involved tend to defend a lot vs 3 bets I'm more inclined to just call and see a flop.


Shadowfax 10 years, 8 months ago

Great video.

You had some awful boards with your big hands - the KK multiple times, the set of 7s when he had the straight.  I liked your discipline with the KK hands and learnt a lot from it - these are situations where I've been autostacking so a bit of an eye opener for me.


crazysqueezy 10 years, 8 months ago

Good video, good fold with KK (standard). Its funny to watch your mouse cursor hunting for stats. Like a puppy dog with an empty food bowl :D


Regularblue 10 years, 8 months ago

In relation to the KK hand i did a quick CREV simulation.

http://gyazo.com/b6ca03e3b40838368c3e294113560c8b

This includes villain shoving AKo,AKs,QQ 30% of the time. Which without any read or HUD i believe it is reasonable to assume that this 

could be the case. Around 27% is the break-even point for calling with KK.

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Another point i would like to make is that, I actually feel like villains line here is more weighted toward AK and QQ, as i feel

That KK+ would be more inclined to make a 5bet.

Anyway no matter what villain had, he pretty much chose the worst way to play any part of his range, for quite obvious reasons.

dodgybob 10 years, 8 months ago

23min you fold QJo to a 3b BTN v BB 2bb - 7.5bb, my preflop is pretty rusty b/c I haven't played in a few months, but that seems like it should be a call given how wide you're (presumably) opening?  

Assuming you're opening like 60-70% of hands, ~40% of that (I think that's around the right MDF) is top 28% of all hands.



MJUK 10 years, 8 months ago

James thanks for your comment about QQ+/AK+ as being the best scenario there.  Given you opened in LP. Couldn't his perception be you are quite wide?  If you originally opened UTG or UTG+1 i would agree but you opened LP get 3bet then the BB is priced in fairly wide.  At this stage he knows you still wide and your 4 bet could still have lots of AQo AJs hands in your range given the action.  There is nearly 100 in the pot when he shoves and i think lots of players will do this atleast as wide as QQ+ but given the action JJ as well.

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
I think the average villain will be tighter than that due to stack sizes and I also don't think that BB is super wide here given that he's not closing the action but I'm not 100% convinced about this play overall tbh. I think I probably need to call the jam and hope villain is making some silly play because it's possible for villain to be wider but obviously not for him to be tighter.


Coolio 10 years, 8 months ago

4 minute mark, table 3, pocket 3's in SB v steal:

You mentioned 3-betting would be based on opponent's tendency to CB and their F3B. Obviously you're looking for a high F3B, but with regards to their CB habits, are you looking for high CB %ages or low CB %ages? I assume it's high, as this increases your implied odds when you hit your set, although an argument could probably be made for low CB %ages increasing your chances of reaching showdown and/or giving you opportunities to steal the pot post-flop.

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
I'd rather villain have a low cbet % in this case for the reasons that you mentioned. It's not a hand that I'm going to enjoy using to punish someone for cbetting too much because it's equity is going to suck when called so I'd rather get to see some free showdowns/turns. Also, villain cbetting too much likely won't increase my implied odds that much unless they are also quite stubborn defending their continuation bets vs raises.


zooroaster 10 years, 8 months ago

Min 37ish--defend J9s...is this type of hand ever in your XC range? you just think he never will stab again weaker than your holding?

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
I don't really expect villain to bet as a bluff here after checking back the turn and by betting small I can get some calls from worse and only lose a small bet when he has a hand like 10-10,JJ,QQ.


daniel9861 10 years, 8 months ago

@ end of video you choose to give up on river w/ 97dd but that hand seems like one of the best hands to have in your river bluffing range for that particular spot. Can you elaborate on why giving up is better than bluffing and what your bluffing and value range would be there?

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
I block diamond combos, 99 and very few (if any) of his Qx hands. I think hands like AJ/A10 (probably only heart combos in this case), and combos without diamonds would make better bluffs here. It's a pretty bad combo to bluff with when you block hands that are always folding but block basically nothing that would be calling. As far as value betting, probably AQ+ I'd guess.


jaacsin 10 years, 8 months ago

Sup, just saw that you fold some hands that i think they are an open at MP somethin like KTo, QJo why are you folding those? also u fold pre K9o at CO and you are opening A8o why is that? Could you upload a rangle table? or give % per position? ty, sick to see someone folding KK preflop but villain is like 300bbs deep and he is not closing the action you should do some EV formulas on that one and calculate how many combos of AK,QQ, KK+ should he have to make our call with KK at least breakeven. (Sorry is my english is bad:P )

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago
Hands like k10o and QJo from MP are hands that I don't think are going to make money as opens but even if they do it should be a fairly negligible amount. K9 and A8 should have roughly the same value from the CO while not making a ton or losing a ton. I did the calculations on the KK a couple of weeks ago and I believe the break even point was if villain was shoving his QQ/AK combos 30% of the time.


jaacsin 10 years, 8 months ago

Also, how do u 3betting range BTN vs CO looks like? i was arguing with a friend that i like to 3bet more hands like ATs, QJs, QKs, than ATo, QJo, KQo and thats why i think we can barrel more often with those hands that the ones that are offsuit and just flatin KQo on the BTN against a CO opener if he is opening something like 22%-28%

James Hudson 10 years, 8 months ago

I think 3 betting suited broadway combos is going to work best against people who call lots of 3 bets and don't 4 bet a ton. If you're likely to get 4 bet off of those hands a decent amount of the time then I'd be more inclined to just flat the raise with them.

brutti 10 years, 7 months ago

KK:


Must be more EV to call pre-flop there IP it also makes you able to manouver post-flop?

I think it's questionable.


savana_puma 10 years, 6 months ago

great vid , agree on folding KK hudless, although holabcn made valid point about villain possibly flatting Aces good amount of time, just a gross spot... however my question is: i didnt mark down the timestamp but you didnt open 67o on the BTN ... dont get me wrong im not trying to point out your failed play im just really curious if this is really standard for you or just  a missclick ?

Gonira 10 years, 5 months ago

if you're not planning to get the kings in against a shove, why don't you just flat the 3bet?

James Hudson 10 years, 5 months ago
A time stamp would help here but if I remember correctly there was a weaker player in the pot who had cold called the 3 bet. Also, I don't think that we need to be completely polarized in all of these pre flop spots these days such that we're either bluffing or value raising. People flat 4 bets quite a lot and there's generally value to be had from that situation occurring.


Pandaclocker 10 years, 3 months ago

Hey James, great video.

At 26:50, you 3bet ATo BTNvsCO. Is that a standard play for you? I think personally I rather 3bet a somewhat polarized range, like AQ+, and then some lower suited aces.

James Hudson 10 years, 3 months ago

I think it's fine but it's obviously not going to be a huge money maker. Having the blockers to his continuing range, being in position, and having the lead should all work together pretty well to make this a profitable play. I think the bigger deal here is making sure that you're not getting overly bluff heavy when using offsuit combos.

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