28 min 87s. Isn't this a pretty easy explo fold considering you're chopping against all worse 7x by the river, recs rarely take a min xr overbet river line as a bluff, and villains preflop stats keep every better 7x in his range? I thought this was a pretty easy fold and was really surprised to hear you say that you couldn't fold this part of your range. A7 and K7 would be close, but all worse 7s seem like a pretty easy fold.
yeah I would love to hear his justification for that call, facing an overbet jam vs a fish in this spot seems like a super standard snap muck. I think even A7 is really close.
Yea expecting him to overvalue AA to this line is very optimistic indeed.
EluSiVeMark10 years, 8 months agoMy only justification is that i remember playing a hand in a similair spot where the weaker player showed up with AA(I think 1 or 2 sessions before this session).
Which is a pretty bad justification and i dont beat any other part of his valuerange and i dont see too many bluffs.
i think its a fold....97% of recreational player never bluff river overbeting...he jump 126bb on river into 70bb after xr flop bet turn looks superstrong imo. i would snap fold that one. U wont see this line to often as a bluff and u r 78 is pure blufcatcher as he wont shove 76 or AA.
u said he cant have Js or Qs, but he can have AA??dont see why he cant have Js or qs but can have AA.. if he is weack he can have anithing.
I don't think it is as clear a fold as everyone is saying. Versus a normal fish, I agree they never shove with worse. But I still see enough megafish that shove here with worse on these limits. What kind of fish is hard to determine by just looking at 80/40 over 5 hands.
When I watched the video, my first instinct was JJ/QQ by the sizing of the flop raise, and the river overshove. AA is often a limp/reraise pre for (mega)fish in my experience.
Also, these sorts of beats are the most tilting for me. (vs weak player/+maybe making a mistake). How do you feel about these kind of losses?
EluSiVeMark10 years, 8 months agoThe losses hurt a bit but i get over them fairly quick. When a hand for whatever reasons tilts me/ affects my game, i try to quiit my session asap.
I am the same as you Castro - I usually do pretty well not tilting. For some reason though when a super fish stacks me usually because I made a bad call at some point I do get tilted even more so if the fish had some crazy hand. This is something I need to fix thankfully I am usually good about quitting sessions soon after this happens.
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can you briefly explain, what you color coding means? I think you explained it in one of your videos but I forgot it :-)
Nice video, as always ;-)
Watch the intro of his first video.
Yeah watch the first few minutes of my first video.
What's the name of the stat where you c/f after raising pre-flop?
What Insilicio said
Is it the same for PT4?
Chael if your still wondering - pretty sure it will be "fold to flop float".
Skip flop cb and c/f OOP
28 min 87s. Isn't this a pretty easy explo fold considering you're chopping against all worse 7x by the river, recs rarely take a min xr overbet river line as a bluff, and villains preflop stats keep every better 7x in his range? I thought this was a pretty easy fold and was really surprised to hear you say that you couldn't fold this part of your range. A7 and K7 would be close, but all worse 7s seem like a pretty easy fold.
Yeah in-game i made a bad call and i think i should fold this hand fairly happy.
For some reason i was a bit emotionally attached to this hand which makes it harder to get away from it.
Might be because i was making a video and like to show you guys the results ;)
I agree with K7 and A7 being the tricky hands whether to call or not.
yeah I would love to hear his justification for that call, facing an overbet jam vs a fish in this spot seems like a super standard snap muck. I think even A7 is really close.
Yea expecting him to overvalue AA to this line is very optimistic indeed.
Which is a pretty bad justification and i dont beat any other part of his valuerange and i dont see too many bluffs.
So yeah a pretty easy fold.
about 78cc .
i think its a fold....97% of recreational player never bluff river overbeting...he jump 126bb on river into 70bb after xr flop bet turn looks superstrong imo. i would snap fold that one. U wont see this line to often as a bluff and u r 78 is pure blufcatcher as he wont shove 76 or AA.
u said he cant have Js or Qs, but he can have AA??dont see why he cant have Js or qs but can have AA.. if he is weack he can have anithing.
nice vid
about the 78cc,
I don't think it is as clear a fold as everyone is saying. Versus a normal fish, I agree they never shove with worse. But I still see enough megafish that shove here with worse on these limits. What kind of fish is hard to determine by just looking at 80/40 over 5 hands.
When I watched the video, my first instinct was JJ/QQ by the sizing of the flop raise, and the river overshove. AA is often a limp/reraise pre for (mega)fish in my experience.
Also, these sorts of beats are the most tilting for me. (vs weak player/+maybe making a mistake). How do you feel about these kind of losses?
I am the same as you Castro - I usually do pretty well not tilting. For some reason though when a super fish stacks me usually because I made a bad call at some point I do get tilted even more so if the fish had some crazy hand. This is something I need to fix thankfully I am usually good about quitting sessions soon after this happens.
nice vid!
on 37min A8o btn-bb, why did you not xc flop ?
I should have. Probably a mistake of playing too fast or distraction from other hand(s).
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