$2.5/$5 6-Max Zoom NLHE Live Session
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Hey thanks for the vid :) @18' : Are you cbetting with your entire range here ? If not, cbet JJ here doesn't leave our checking range too weak, i find that this is one of our first good hand to include in our checking range (we don't have three streets of value, need less protection than TT or a 9...). And if this is the case, do you use a only one bet sizing strategy and also bet small with better hands or different sizings. Pretty curious on how to play our range in that spot and which hands includes in the two bet sizing and why. You had a similar spot earlier, with KK on A93b co v hj but i found that those two spots were different as in this hand you have a net range avantage and vilain haven't hit a pair very often.
@19' : Don't have a check raising range here, as i don't defend 93s/92s (also 32s but it's just because i'm a nit, it's probably good) and i don't find that we have a range avantage here on this flop no ?
@20'30 : Also a 3bet pot, what would you do river on a blank ? Bet smallish i guess.
With which hand do you think we should balanced that ? It's really a strategy that i want to implement in my game. I'm sure that there are a lot of benefits to do that and to bet small with those hands. I just don't see how to intelligently balance that, and which good hand bet small to be sure to not being exploited by a too loose raising strategy. The last question about those 3bet spots til the end of the vid i promise :D Already a wall of text lol.
AudeJavel not a fish :p
@40' : interesting hand i would probably call, i didn't thought about raising our overpair here, but it might be the best option as on a blank river he can give up his missed FD (which is blocking your folding range). You have few nut FD in your calling range as you said.
I like this siz too, put you in a tough spot with a lot of your hands, do you think that we can also add a small donking range with the rest of of our range for protection/value essentially ? Ty see u :)
Hey Kaïzen,
Lets start the discussion with 2 of your questions, let me know your thoughts about what i say:
@18 ill share with you my thoughts about this hand and see if you agree with me. First of all, i think this is lets say a neutral board since we probably have close to the same equity with our ranges. Its kind of connected, and he wont fold too much when i cbet, that makes me not to want to play an extremely polarized strategy on the flop, and im interested on sometimes cbet hands like this type. Also my range on the flop is so narrow that if i pick a size like <50% i still can keep a high frecquency cbet which is good for protection, and to keep the lead on the hand. But its also true that every hand of my range will have very close equity between check/bet, and JJ/TT/AK/9x are decent hands to put into your xRaising range, and im certainly checking sometimes with those ones, but if i choose to check every time, i ll end doing 2 things that i dont want on this spot:
- ill polarize too much my flop cbet strategy
- ill force myself to check a very high amount of my KK+
@19 Im not calling 93/92 neither, but i do have 99/33/22/32s. And thats enough to develop a raising range, and adding some complexity to the game tree. Also this is a board where its very difficult to bluffcatch on later streets, so protection its important, and you even could raise sometimes hands like A9s. And because of those hands ill add some bluffs like this. Its true that i wont xRaise a lot, but i would think that something between 5-10% xRaise its close to accurate.
Thanks for your answer and sorry for the delay response i wasn't here.
Interestings thoughts i didn't considered some points. The fact that betting small lets us to bet a large portion of the time with a wide range and slowplays less often KK+ in particular. Nevertheless, i think that checking sometimes JJ, AK, KK+ (at a low frequency) can be good because i find that we have too many bluffs if we choose to bet all of our AK flop, our value range seems pretty narrow. I think we have a c/f without a bd fd. So i agree with your thoughts, betting very often with a depolarized range and very smart even if check JJ seemed strange and unusual to me.
@19' : Ok for this hand. Vilain don't have 32s and A9o contrary to us (didn't thought to also raise this hand).
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@min19: isn´t it better to bet exploititive like 1/5 pot or so to just fold out his bluff3bet range otf which wont call anyways
i highly doubt we will get folds from the value parts of his range, so i´d like to bet the river way smaller just to fold out his bluffingrange which we cant beat with 5 high...
obv we arent balanced that well and we cant get max value from our valuerange if we are bluffing with a tiny sizing
but just from exploititive perspective, shouldnt we bet way smaller with our bluffs here, bcs we wont fold out his valuerange but some portion of his bluffingrange?
Hey,
Betting small the river with our bluffs its very risky since i would never bet small with any full house, and i give some credit to z500 opponents to note that. Its probaly that if i bet 1/5 on the river, they will start to consider calling with any hand that beats 6high.
If your opponent will call an inelastic range without caring about my size then i agree that bet small with your bluffs will give you better EV.
Nice video!
Cheers!
Juan I have a question about your small blockbet valuebluff strategy. And maybe you can also clear some doubt about this also because Sauce too does it a lot (he likes it more on the river, you seem to use it more on the turn).
Basically when we bet small with a certain subsection of hands we willingly give our opponents the information our range is extremely capped to the hands that benefit from a small blockbet. I'm a relatively new player to midstakes so there's definitely something I'm missing but I don't understand how it can work favorably. If I were to face such a strategy I would just employ a very wide raising range with extremely big bets because that's what you are supposed to do against capped ranges. Sure then you can start mixing in some strong hands when I start doing that but then aren't you just complicating your game tree for very little value? Also you are giving your opponent the opportunity to make way more profit with value hands (as he can valueraise really thin) and have a wider and more polarized bluffing range, which should increases the overall EV of his turn or river betting range (?).
So do you just do it because people don't react properly or you think it's perfectly fine and you are not worrying about being put in difficult situations?
Hey Cloud,
I dont think the small size implies a capped range, a well balanced strategy should care about adding some strong hands sometimes, and you will end getting a better overall EV for your entire strategy. Also sometimes there are strong hands that really dont want to bet big because of his blockers. For instance, if you hold AA on 237r_A after cbetting the flop and get check-called you dont really want to bet big on the turn with that hand, since you would be forcing your opponent to just call with hands that you are already blocking, so its better for your hand to develop a strategy that still charge parts of villain range as 7x for example.
Alright it makes a lot of sense, thank you.
@28:30 I don't think that small bet is the best option w A8o since villain is UTG and will call you w AJo+ but okay you said it wouldn't be a bluff but a protection bet and I am not quiet sure what you want to protect from. To me it seems like a mistake but maybe you can go more into detail why you think it's the best play.
hey heilen,
When having the Ac you hold a hand with some more bluff potential on the river. When i talk about protection im referring to hands like KQo/KJo/QJo. Our strategy should be valuebetting hands like 4x/Tx/pp´s so adding a small thinn valuff part to this range doesnt affect our strategy and makes our turn checking range (wich should be very big) a little bit less weak, and i keep some hands into my range to bluff very effective some rivers where is hard for my range find hands to bluff.
why does the screen say 2.50/5 but actually blinds are 0.50/1? seems odd...
The chips are converted to big blinds. It´s zoom500 (2.5/5).
great video.
About 25min with KK, when you cbet flop small, do you generally check turn and call river? on A95, KK and many hands in ur range dont need protection, so isnt this less attractive of a spot to cbet small with ur range? wouldnt u wanna bet larger generally with AK AQ type hands and check JJ-KK?
at 42min, with AQ on 964ss, why do u prefer big cbet size on this board?
also, u say u have to call if he raises, but why is this? As blocks value hands but also blocks his bluffs I'd think.
Hi FIVEbb,
I dont think its a mandatory call on the river if you did cbet small the flop. Hands like TT-KK here are very sensitive to many things like opponent river size, the runnout, and even the kind of blockers that you hold with your pocket pair. And im not sure that you want to bet that big on a BUvMP 3betpot with your AQ+ since both ranges are very narrow, and hands like AKo have almost at every street a very close decision between cbetting and checking.
@42min Take a look to the AA hand that i played at the begining of the video.
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