I agree with you :) This hand was pure exploitation -- gone terribly, terribly wrong. I was expecting most tens and 8s to fold. I didn't think he'd want to lose his stack that he just won doing something "foolish".

Hey Gozo!

I appreciate your comment. You're definitely right I could have spent more time speaking to ranges and target folds. I will look to spend a little more time with CREV during these videos.
On the smaller betsizes and how they might be more appropriate. The truth is I don't believe substantial edge using them. If we look at pio solver solutions, we see basically the same value for both strategies (anything with 1-2% is basically within the margin of error -- I can't play pio perfect on the turn and river). Given that I've played 7ish million hands using 1/2 pot, I feel that I would be giving up a substantial edge to gain 1% closer to GTO (if I played perfectly!).

Thanks for the great feedback!

Yes, but I've never gotten into the habit of looking ;) Playing live or on offbrand sites require I calculate the pot odds in my heads. Practicing calculating while looking at hand histories makes me more efficient in game - even if I occasionally end up using a calculator on video. :)

I have lots and lots of value hands with very few bluffs. i need to increase my bluffing frequency to make folding KQ a lower expectation play.

also same question for final hand , feels like were pushing ourselves towards indifferent vs a jam which is a play im sure a lot of recs make even if this board one that a reg would x/jam on

Sigh call or sigh fold. It would depend heavily on my hand reading of the villain. Its roughly neutral ev to slightly negative against a gto strategy, so hand reading is critical. If this was in a complete vacuum, I would fold with 9d and call with 6d as I block several critical draws with the 9 diamonds of which I am substantially ahead.

@ A7hh I'd be folding always. Its very very difficult for my opponent to have a draw on this board texture and given the frequency I have AK, its very likely that his jamming range here is sets+. Against this range, my hand would have roughly 20% equity making it a negative call.

ok ty, just lastly so given that with a9dd we make ourselves virtually indifferent woudlnt we be better checking this hand and barreling a slightly lower equity combo

It could be. We'd need to consider the raising frequency of our opponent as well as EV after being raised. There would be a threshold, where checking back would become more profitable than betting. In most situations villain's turn checkraising ranges are small enough that betting is greater EV than checking, but that's not always true.

Its not necessarily "bad" as much as less profitable. Players play for different reasons rather than to just make money. Playing against tougher composition forces you to get better if you want to keep your bankroll. It also feels better to play against tougher composition. From an ego perspective beating Sauce and WGCRider is more satisfying than beating some random rec. Even if the random rec is much more lucrative opposition. In the longer term, learning how to beat tough competition certainly improves your edge in softer games as well. Beating 5 players at the table as opposed to 1 is the best position possible.

Thanks Centgas!

You're right Centgas! Pio is more theoretical. Pio provides the maximum value against our opponents best counter strategy. This is very helpful, when we have little information about our opponent and need to design a strong strategy. Its particularly applicable to situations with small ranges, where we can memorize/recreate its ranges in game. Its also helpful in situations, where we want to know how well our strategy holds up to exploitation. I think of Pio as how awesome I could be :)

CREV allows you to easily precisely model your oppositions hand range, i.e. how they actually play in game. This is great for situations where you know a lot about your opponent and need to know what hands that will likely fold to a river bet to make a bluff profitable. Or alternatively what bet-size might maximize value against a certain hand range.

TLDR: Both software have valuable uses. Pio is more GTO and CREV is more exploitative.

I'm going to break this hand down in more detail using CardRunnersEV Taiga. I've got next video shot, but it will be one after. Its actually really interesting what he should call with here.

Thanks Ddog!

Any pocket pair will flop a set roughly 1 in 8 times and after they flop the trips win 85% of the time. This is the highest winning percentage of any two cards on the flop against an overpair, which makes these hands particularly good bluffs. 22 - 66 make excellent 3-bet bluffs against players who fold slightly too often preflop for this reason.

I hope you sucked on him :)

The classic thing to do in all of these situations where your bluffs are unprofitable is to expand your value range, whether its preflop, flop, turn or river.

As to what %, anything under 40% fold to 3-bet all bluffs are going to go negative as the fold % rises to 65% we can add in bluffs until after 65%, we can basically 3-bet any hand we plan on folding to his raise. The basic idea is to add our best bluffs bluffing hands in first and as the fold to 3-bet% gets larger to add in weaker bluffs.

I should have it was an oversight. I sometimes bluff raise suited broadways.

Yeah ok i thought so.

Preflop in your spot in this hand is it ever a good idea to fold QJo+, KJo+? or should these be vpip'd in one way or another every time? What about KTo?

All of those hands should be folded in MP vs EP. Its near the bottom of the EP players range, so should always be a negative play to call or raise those hands. There are of course exceptions, namely players who overfold to 3-bets or who open up 60% of hands UTG.

If you look at the math here in general geometric sized bets make the most money against strong opposition. I suggest you read mathematics of poker by Bill Chen and Jared Ackermann for more information.

Thanks Pokerhousewife! I'm stoked you enjoyed it!

I meant from villains perspective that my range is all bluff catchers so he should continue betting his value hands only occasionally will I bet the turn in position. So checking is generally the worse option with ak.