Mobey lead out of the big blind into 3 people, you found it odd given the board- that’s why you tagged him- then you stacked him rather “politely” as you are. Good format, I like these a lot; I wouldn’t mined if you could do a few videos adding a little bit of in-depth theory based analysis. GTO and other PLO theoretical principles. And I have a specific question: yesterday I played a hand AJ82 ds and flopped a boat AA2 on the button. There was a pfr and the raiser lead into me, I raised about 2/3. He had 7k back , I just sat down with 2k (5-5 Plo). He re-raised me , which was my plan and we got it all-in. I faded his outs and won. This worked perfectly , but my question to you is what happens when you have a boat like AA2 where potential every card minus an A or 2 on the turn and river can be scary cards or actual outs- how can I proceed with a boat when these other cards come ? In other words, would you have taken a different line ip and just tried to keep the person betting into you , reduce possible variance? Idk , I just wanted to get it all in when I was good. Ty
I just posted this in a reply to your comment from my other video, but I think you'll find what you're looking for by posting hand histories and questions like this in the PLO forums.
These video comment threads were designed to cover any hands or concepts that I went over in the video that you still had questions on. It works nicely that way because if you have a question on a hand I played, it's very likely another viewer does too, so they can browse the comments here and learn something extra.
In your AJ82 example, I would tend to mix it up, especially on a board with a flush draw. On a rainbow board in a full-ring live game, there isn't a lot of incentive for me to float with hands that would end up bluffing later given how often each of us have an ace in (given our preflop ranges) and how important a blocker it is, which makes it harder to get called or bluffed into on future streets. For that reason, I like to fastplay more on AA2 rainbow (exploitatively - I'm unsure about theory in this spot).
like the essential one i was quite happy with this video. I'm sure once you get more comfortable if you ever do more WSOP you can add tables but I do like the depth it allows for with your explanations. Selfishly I think I'm at a point in my development where a fast pace can be tougher for me, so I'm sure the higher level guys will want it a little faster which would be fine.
on min 6:40, how do u perceive SB CC range in that spot? you mentioned it is weak, what combos do u thin he mostly has? What boards except K-high are best for SB CC?
Off topic I suppose, but many people probably aren't aware that WSOP has a policy that they will charge you a monthly fee if you are inactive for a period of one year. Not an issue for most players but made me so mad that I closed my account. Otherwise, a great video Phil, and I quite like the format.
-I like a slow pace. So two tables is way enough. I like it when you focus and talk about the most I portent aspects of the hand ( vs minor details) and when u explain key aspects of your hands relativ to your overall strategy
your sound quality is great ur lighting is fine. Much more important for us for you to focus on the game than that stuff.
Min 36, when u flop qq set I don’t understand why we check to call. If we want to play slow is a bet not the better option? Also do not understand the bet on the river as he likely has missed and probably won’t call much. As such would it not be better to induce, or in other words is it not too late to bet now?
~ min 14. Is the AJ76ds a standard 3b for you SB vs CO vs an unknown? Just wondering if you 3b because you thought he opened "too wide" (he seemed pretty active in the small sample) or if you think it's strong enough/plays well enough OOP to 3b as a default even though we are probably not pushing eq vs a 25% range.
Phil like ur delivery new to watching on site and I’m just average player but when I play it’s usually home game with 8-9 players and when I watch u I try to watch the 6 handed games that never seem to have 6 hands . My question would be starting ranges in 8-9 handed game when most the cards are out . I see you raising quite often with hands that probably wouldn’t with 8-9 players at least I think
Thanks! You should start with tighter ranges from the first few positions, but once 3 people have folded in a 9 handed game, it's essentially the same thing as a 6 handed game, so raising similar hands should work well for you in all spots besides the early ones (or against early position raisers).
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Mobey lead out of the big blind into 3 people, you found it odd given the board- that’s why you tagged him- then you stacked him rather “politely” as you are. Good format, I like these a lot; I wouldn’t mined if you could do a few videos adding a little bit of in-depth theory based analysis. GTO and other PLO theoretical principles. And I have a specific question: yesterday I played a hand AJ82 ds and flopped a boat AA2 on the button. There was a pfr and the raiser lead into me, I raised about 2/3. He had 7k back , I just sat down with 2k (5-5 Plo). He re-raised me , which was my plan and we got it all-in. I faded his outs and won. This worked perfectly , but my question to you is what happens when you have a boat like AA2 where potential every card minus an A or 2 on the turn and river can be scary cards or actual outs- how can I proceed with a boat when these other cards come ? In other words, would you have taken a different line ip and just tried to keep the person betting into you , reduce possible variance? Idk , I just wanted to get it all in when I was good. Ty
Hey Darrenrose32!
I just posted this in a reply to your comment from my other video, but I think you'll find what you're looking for by posting hand histories and questions like this in the PLO forums.
These video comment threads were designed to cover any hands or concepts that I went over in the video that you still had questions on. It works nicely that way because if you have a question on a hand I played, it's very likely another viewer does too, so they can browse the comments here and learn something extra.
In your AJ82 example, I would tend to mix it up, especially on a board with a flush draw. On a rainbow board in a full-ring live game, there isn't a lot of incentive for me to float with hands that would end up bluffing later given how often each of us have an ace in (given our preflop ranges) and how important a blocker it is, which makes it harder to get called or bluffed into on future streets. For that reason, I like to fastplay more on AA2 rainbow (exploitatively - I'm unsure about theory in this spot).
Ok thanks! Will do.
like the essential one i was quite happy with this video. I'm sure once you get more comfortable if you ever do more WSOP you can add tables but I do like the depth it allows for with your explanations. Selfishly I think I'm at a point in my development where a fast pace can be tougher for me, so I'm sure the higher level guys will want it a little faster which would be fine.
great video Phil
on min 6:40, how do u perceive SB CC range in that spot? you mentioned it is weak, what combos do u thin he mostly has? What boards except K-high are best for SB CC?
Thanks
Thanks and great question!
I think SB has a lot of KK/QQ and single suited rundowns from KQJT to 9876, then some so-so Ace high hands like AKQ4ss.
So I suspect the best boards for SB are the connected ones with all cards between 7-K. (KT7, JT9, Q98)
Off topic I suppose, but many people probably aren't aware that WSOP has a policy that they will charge you a monthly fee if you are inactive for a period of one year. Not an issue for most players but made me so mad that I closed my account. Otherwise, a great video Phil, and I quite like the format.
Yikes, I didn't know that. I already recorded these videos but in the future, I'll look into that and add a warning. Thanks.
Great content phil, love the format.
You asked for feedback:
-I like a slow pace. So two tables is way enough. I like it when you focus and talk about the most I portent aspects of the hand ( vs minor details) and when u explain key aspects of your hands relativ to your overall strategy
Min 36, when u flop qq set I don’t understand why we check to call. If we want to play slow is a bet not the better option? Also do not understand the bet on the river as he likely has missed and probably won’t call much. As such would it not be better to induce, or in other words is it not too late to bet now?
~ min 14. Is the AJ76ds a standard 3b for you SB vs CO vs an unknown? Just wondering if you 3b because you thought he opened "too wide" (he seemed pretty active in the small sample) or if you think it's strong enough/plays well enough OOP to 3b as a default even though we are probably not pushing eq vs a 25% range.
P.S Great SN!
Phil like ur delivery new to watching on site and I’m just average player but when I play it’s usually home game with 8-9 players and when I watch u I try to watch the 6 handed games that never seem to have 6 hands . My question would be starting ranges in 8-9 handed game when most the cards are out . I see you raising quite often with hands that probably wouldn’t with 8-9 players at least I think
Thanks! You should start with tighter ranges from the first few positions, but once 3 people have folded in a 9 handed game, it's essentially the same thing as a 6 handed game, so raising similar hands should work well for you in all spots besides the early ones (or against early position raisers).
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