3 Table $2.5/$5 6-Max Zoom PLO Live Session
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Like the live zoom vids! 2 tables and more in depth strategy talk would probably be better though.
Noted, thank you!
Phil - Given you've played a bit of 2.5/5 zoom in the last week or two what do you think you could win if you played regularly in bb/100?
It would be a total guess... Somewhere between 5 and 10?
Tbh i don't like the format. There is so much mess in talking, trying to keep up the action. I love when u re talking deeply about hands so SR format is much mych better to watch and analyze. Hope we'll see more session review format.
I think it wasn't your a-game :P
21:48
i hate this bluff. It just doesnt make a lot of sense. You bet the turn into two ppl yeah you have some FH on the river but there is not that much especially u 3bet most of your food QQ/JJ pf and fold the weekest ones. Your range otr likes to ch a lot (even many FH likes to ch cuz its easier to balace) so betting looks bluffy a lot. Especially u said he doesnt have many T5 combos but he can have more QQ/JJ than you(i think he has all QQ/JJ/99 in his range on the turn and river).
I rly would like to see what is your gameplan on the river. I think it easier and better to start build your range by checking and i think its not bad to not have a betting range here. U cant be exploited if u have very well balanced x/c and x/j range.
Also your timing was terrible i'd would be rly suprised if he will not raise your every single time after this timing :P
Hey agro,
The problem with video formats is that people want different things. I'm kind of binging on live videos recently because I enjoy them so much from our other pros, and because I was in the US for over two months to start the year, so I'm excited to have the opportunity to make live videos.
That said, I definitely want to hear what people want and don't want, so I very much appreciate the input.
21:48
I was unsure in the moment, but I stand by this bluff. The timing, that's another thing :), but my timing is always going to be weird when recording a live video. Sometimes I'd be discussing why I chose to bet instead of x/r with my boat or why I chose to bet with 2nd nut straight, for example.
The reason I like the bluff is simply - I have K high. This may be the absolute bottom of my range. I talked a lot in this video about when to use 'bottom of range' as a justification and when not to, and I think in this case it holds water.
There are several Ahxh hands in his range, and it would be a shame to let him win at showdown with a hand as weak as Jx/TT/9x. There's still the chance that he folds two pair or the low straight as well, but I definitely want this hand in my bluffing range because it is one of the only hands with exactly 0 EV checking.
I'm not sure what hands I'd prefer to bluff (lead) with here, as QJ makes a pretty good x/r since it has a ton of EV in pots that go ck ck, and it's got the most relevant blockers to x/r with.
I do have plenty of marginal QQ and JJ in my preflop range. I actually don't 3bet a ton of QQ and JJ unless they are very strong (or double paired).
Anyways, it's a whole video's worth of answers to build my whole range here, but that should give you an idea. And if you (or anyone) would like to suggest some ranges, I'll be happy to analyze it.Tnx for answer.
I try to biuld some ranges based on what u wrote.
So u think its better to have some betting range to make a chance to get away with this no sd value bluffs in case when he has a bottom of his range ? And then add to this range some of your boats/quads to not make your range overbluffy ?? Its very polarized range so than i feel you shoud just potted it to make his bluff less atractive and prbl its more possible to make him fold some of his weak two pairs like J9 which can bluff vs smaller sizing.
Jus try to build something from there :P
36:13
KT98ss u opened UTG isn't it too loose ? Especially it doesnt look like the table is soft enough.
At the same time u were talking about hand vs JNandez and tbh a was suprised u bet the flop vs strong opponent. I would like much more to bet this vs weak opponent who will not raise the flop often or its very unbalanced with his range.
In this particular spot i prbl would like to ch this hand and bet more A high K high draws with the pair (check for sure some) and x/c this hand. It playes so good ott when the pot is smaller and u can pickup so many little equity bluffs whitch he can have when u check this board.
These two spots, I wish I felt more strongly one way or the other but I think both are so close they don't matter.
For me, KT98ss is a fold in a tough game and an open in an average game. I wouldn't fault anyone for raising it or folding it.
The Q985ss hand on 862ss - I don't mind a bet or a x/c. I lean slightly towards a bet, but again, I wouldn't fault you for either play. Definitely dislike a x/r :)
9:24 Table 2; I think you should be turning AJ into a bluff on river. You are near the bottom of your range and you shouldn't have many one-pair hands on this runout. Our range is capped and saturated with merged value bets; I'd lead about 50% pot.
5:38 Table 2; AQT3 on Q73hhc; What do you think of Alien Slayer's line? Would you play it differently? You didnt raise big on flop so you oculd have some lower equity bluffs in your range. He certainly can go with it on this turn but would you lead to protect and prevent a Phil check back or would you check to maximize vs Phils low-equity hands?
11:20 Table 2; K2T3ssdd;
His turn call range is Aces up, sets, Ad*d, and draws. I dont think we are getting value from sets and 2pair on one of the worst rivers for him. We block a straight (by having it) so we dont get value vs that. And his draws big enough to call turn are higher FDs than T-high. I dont think we get called by worse often.
Also, when he has Aces-up just combinatorically 1/3 of the time he has has the NFD blocker which he may choose to bluff with. So unless we b/c we not only get folds vs Aces-up but we sometimes get blown off the best hand.
I think the river play is check/decide. c/f or x/c. X/c if we expect him to turn 2-pair into a bluff when holding NFD blocker, or to value bet a straight when checked to.
and fwiw I think his river raise should be too thin vs what your river range should look like!
20:00 ; Table 3 you open A(Q5)6. Seems on the loose side but once you are 3b by BTN can you really turn a profit calling?
edit: wrote this before you talked it over.
39:30 at the top right table, seems like a nice spot for a c/behind for me. we really don´t want to bloat the pot with a non nut draw vs a calling station and a player who prob quite frequently has a QQ/KK setmining heavy range due to his overlimp and therefore often have to fold our equity away when raised, esp with our nice backdoor straight. seems like a waste of equity imo; and it´s prob also not the best texture for barreling away if called.
The Q985ss hand on 862ss vs Jnandez - how about CRAI on river?
29:34 KT95s call flop is standart? I can play turn only if i hit my strit or 9, on K,T, or 5 I don't know how to play.
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