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3 Table $2.5/$5 6-max Zoom NLHE

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Zaza

POSTED Dec 05, 2015

Zaza loads up a trio of $500 Zoom tables and discusses his NLHE strategies in real time as he plays.

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EnjoyLife 9 years, 4 months ago

Hi Zaza! Very good vid as always!
6:50 44 hand - why you overbet river? I think that highest EV sizing is from 1/2 to 2/3 pot, because his range containing a lot of mid diamond hands and nines. And you really have narrow bluffing region of your range on that spot.

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

It kinda depends on how wide we call turn. But I woulda prefered a smaller bet as well. even though our river valuebetting range shouldnt be too thinn i still prefer choosing a single betsizing rather than having multiple.

backoncrack 9 years, 4 months ago

hey zaza, cool vid.

i was pretty surprised to see you critique the reg's ch/b with AsAx on Js3s3x. It depends on his strat i guess, if he's betting polarised or just full range for small sizing. I wouldn't be surprised if that combo would show up as a 100% ch/b in a solver if we have a polar cbetting strat in mind. Its blockers are probably worse than JJ vs our cont range.

@min 37 TT btnvsco, dont you think theres more ev in barreling turn rather than keeping it in our river bluffcatching range, TT is one of the hands in our range that needs the most protection while still having at least 65% eq vs his range. it just has irrelevant blocker effects for bluffcatching river

not generally a fan of zoom vids, but it def had a more lively feel compared to other zoom regs. keep it up man

lol1234 9 years, 4 months ago

regarding the AsAx on Js3s3x:

i would suspect that a solver has a very small, if any, checking range on this flop for IP given MP's 19% opening range and Zaza's very wide BB defending strategy vs that sizing.

liked the video!

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

hi thanks.

I shouldnt have reacted as I did. That being said I dont think u have to do alot of checking when u bet big or small on this texture with AA ip. It should a play u can mix in a lil bit more frequently when u bet bigger on the flop rather than small. there can be other implications we are unaware of. Like my perceived ch r range frequency or attacking checking back range frequencies that might play a big role in his strategy. I dont play him that often so i cant comment more on that.

I like betting 10's on the turn in this scenario as well. I would mix up my play from time to time but its such a good card for our range that we can be betting it quite a bit.Checking some combos of 10s with a spade is going to have a better ev than checking those without spades. We arent gonna get check raised very often on the turn either so I defintely like betting them on the turn at a high frequency.

Seth 9 years, 4 months ago

AA are close to indifferent between betting and checking, but if Zaza starts bluffing the turn with hands he shouldn't, which seems true, check back becomes very good exploitive option.

Jafeeio 9 years, 4 months ago

Just wanted to come in and say thanks for your videos.
You are clearly very in touch and honest with the games you are playing in and the opponents you are facing and I appreciate that.

I might replay later with a question if I can find something :D

Roberto 9 years, 4 months ago

Hey Zaza, nice video as usual! Its very good to have u here in the RIO.
4:30 table 2 on A88cc3Q … I understood your explanation why the opponent probably has a low bluffing frequency and therefore we can fold a hand like AT on that board. But as you said folding a hand like AT could make us very exploitable.
My question is how do you recognize which opponents will not be bluffing enough and the ones who understand this and will be bluffing a lot??
Im asking this because that’s where I get confused. I don’t know when to make this exploitative adjustments (especially in the Zoom tables where you don’t have dynamics and you don’t play lots pf hands vs the same opponent) and in general I decide my plays looking to the top/bottom of my range, but I just feel like Im loosing so much EV by not doing these exploitative plays.
Thx

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

glad u liked it.
good question. It's not like I have a specific way of recognizing those things. It just comes with experience and recognizing and memorizing players tendencies. Will there be players who are going to exploit us in certain spots when making those adjustments, yes! but theres gonna be a lot of other players who wont win more money vs u. I think thats a good way of looking at the situation. plus the times u do have a hand and see that person make a non std 3barrel bluff in certain spots u should always make a mental or detailed note about it.
We as poker players often tend to condemn plays of our opponents cos they appear bad at the surface or dont represent what we consider as std or good. Often times these those lines are nothing other than an attempt in exploiting something in our game. So the next time u witness sth non std or bad to ur standards than try to look at it from a few different angles.

Deactivated User 9 years, 4 months ago

37:00 TT, Table 1
Is it bad to bet the turn (80%+ of the time with that specific hand)?
We would be perceived slightly/a lot lighter as usual (over card and fdraw ott, good barreling opportunity for many hands in our range) and thinking opponent might call one more with any pair worse than our hand. Also protects us when we are actually barreling.

Really good vid have never watched ur vids in the past but sure as hell im gonna fix that leak from now on :D.

Insilicio 9 years, 4 months ago

Thanks man. Stuff went a bit quick for me but yeah u know im slow a.f. lol. Interesting how u make it 3x button while 2x like mp so make u tougher to play against. Also u cbetting 30% pot a lot is something I might study more since I turn my range often quickly face up I feel on the flop OOP.

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

Thats the best way to go about it. Just gotta go out there and test the waters and different strategies and betsizing until u come up with a good enough analysis and arguemtns for a chosen strategy. dont take my word or that of any other coach for granted or as an absolute truth.

Dog18 9 years, 4 months ago

35 min- you 3bet AA sb vs button and face 4bet. At 150bb deep do you not have 5bet shoving range? or are you shoving like AK and QQ and then having a small bluffing range with AA/KK?

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

I think u can implement the described strategy u chose for sure in practice. it really depends on my opponent wether or not im implementing a 5b strat. But as a std I dont just jam my entire range there for sure.

patpatimagatt 9 years, 4 months ago

May I ask how you are going to change your plans for next year with the changes to stars vip program? Gonna play a lot more 2/5? Spread play over multiple sites to get rakeback at 5/10?

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

Honestly, I have taken another break from the grind dealing with some real life stress.So
I havent given it too much thought. As always Im gonna see whats actually gonna happen next year and how it develop and take it from there. But multisiting is gonna be a necessity more than ever next year for sure.

frankyeh 9 years, 4 months ago

16:10@9T
why you bet 9T big at 34Tss Jd board?? for value or protect?

what is your plan at river? (some card at river will let you turn into bluff?)

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

I was betting for value and protection yes. Hes a weaker player and his range is going to be very face up in this spot on the turn for the most part. he also cbets at a high frequency oop which makes his range weaker on the turn . weaker players will fail at constructing well balanced turn strategies if their range becomes a bit wider and harder to play.

bang_bang 9 years, 4 months ago

Nice video sir.
I have a question about KJcc hand at 5:00 where you said he can go for value with AK+ and i am not sure if he can valuebet AK. I think we need some sort of a read that he doesnt like to fold rivers to valuebet AK....

Zaza 9 years, 2 months ago

He should jam it in theory given how many a10 aj combos we have and worse tp.
I agree that some people dont valuejam ak here.

ShipTheNoche 9 years, 4 months ago

Hi Zaza, may you tell us a few underrated -but still really important- hud stats that you observe fairly often while playing?

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

I dont use my hud very much at all . But if i could give u a piece of advice it would be to get a good overall picture of sbs game when looking at ur hud. I always tried to have the lines stats corrolate to eachother. This will give u a good overview what to exploit . Most of the useful stats are notecaddy created stats . The generic hem stats usually arent that great.,

Jonathan Kohen 9 years, 4 months ago

Minute 7 i really liked your thoughts on how various turns can strengthen our opponents barreling frequency. I also liked how you tied that in with not being concerned about folding the top of our range and subsequently being exploited by other players. Humans dont play perfect. How frequently are you finding yourself in spots where you overfold against river barrels?

Minute 15 you 4b from CO against BTN with 8h6h. How do you keep yourself from 4betting too light in these spots? I try to reserve most of my 4b's to suited broadways to prevent myself from 4betting too much

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

I think I mentionned it in another thread before, but those things come down to experience and knowledge about population barrel frequencies in many spots. If u happen to recognize such a spot its a good idea to apply that logic and make the appropriate play.
How do u find these spots?
Look at spots in game or off the tables where u are struggling to construct a bluffing range . It's usually gonna be very similar spots regulars will struggle with.

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

Suited broadways are usually too strong to 4b bluff in late position. I would rather flat those vs 3bets. As far as 86 hh goes, Im not a fan of that 4b as a standard.I think it is more effective to revert to better blockers and stick to specific 4betting ranges rather than randomize so randomly as i did. :)

hocourt 9 years, 4 months ago

Hi there, why have you decided to 2x from other positions but 3x from the button? Is this because our button ranges are inherently weaker and therefore would like to encourage more folds? If so, then aren't you losing more vs their 3bets? Also, from other positions (CO and EP), when we are 2x'ing are we then encouraging them to continue with a really wide range and therefore makes it much tougher for them further in the game tree to continue vs our much stronger range?

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

I think theres arguments for many different raise sizes preflop.
You can see a lot of the best players in the world use different approaches when it comes to this. U mentionned some good points for all the different sizings. always make sure to not only adapt ur raise size but also with it ur raising ranges. the smaller u go the looser u will be able to open the bigger the less.

Azartus 9 years, 4 months ago

Hey super Zazano, quick questions, first hand min 2:48 in the 3bet pot table 1 , i was wondering why did you pick that bet sizing in a relatively wet board, dont we want to bet big in this board texture? , and min 6:53 left table why did you bet pot with the full house in the 4 cards flush? dont we want to bet small here because we have no bluff?
thank you in advance and gl at the tables.

Zaza 9 years, 4 months ago

theres some hands i wanna bet for protection that wont be able to go 3 streets alot of the times. I dont wanna put in too much money with a hand like aq in this spot for instance unless i improve but i wanna bet it for protection on the flop. not to 100% but i definitely wanna have it in my betting range. I usually pick a smaller betsize on monoboards, but u could make arguments for solely using a bigger size and bet a lot more polarized range.

44 hand is interesting.
It kinda depends on how wide we call turn. But I woulda prefered a smaller bet as well. even though our river valuebetting range shouldnt be too thinn i still prefer choosing a single betsizing rather than having multiple.

Smile 9 years, 4 months ago

Hey Zaza, cool video!

To the last hand you discussed in the replayer. You mentioned that his semibluff x/shove hands could be smth like A3cc or 8cXc, but what hands would you recommend to put in his x/c twice range to protect QQ+ hands from folding too many rivers? Maybe a hand like QcTc QsTs or JsXs, but seems as it's not enough anyway and probably not even 3betting them in these positions.

Zaza 9 years, 2 months ago

It really comes down to ur 3b range here. those hands u mentionned are definitely some candidates. i would be very cautious bluffcatching in those spots, given they have to be turning some made hands into a bluff for u to profitably bluffcatch. It really comes down to how wide they float the flop. 7 and q rivers are really bad for us, those are the one we shouldnt really bluffcatch.

fabiopau 9 years, 2 months ago

Hi Zaza , you are the one !
I wanna ask a question .
At min 10:27 with ( 810 off suited ) --> on the river , what do you think if we make a overbet size on the river ?
The pot was 58.06 , if we start gonna bet a size like 83.39 , do you think that the opponet could be call ?

Thanks a lot for all .
It's really intertaiment look your videos , i really like it !

Zaza 9 years, 2 months ago

we can definitely build in an overbetting strategy here. this hand would be a solid candidate for it. 150% pot seems like a pretty solid sizing as well. we just gotta be care to not overbluff when we overbet cos we dont have that many valuehands.

Random Numbers 8 years, 11 months ago

Dear Zaza,

Don't know if you gonna read my comment that late but i make a shot, and hope my questions weren't asked.
At 23.39, 3bet 33 sb vs bu.
Curious about this one, not so glad to see any flop comes, not so glad to 3bet5bet as low (mean you 3bet5bet with 22+) :$
At 42: co vs bb T9dd
Surprise that you don't cbet this, no sdv, good equity when call or 3bet

All rest as been comment and solve,
Awesome content, tx a lot !

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