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3 Table $2.50/$5 6-Max Zoom Session Review (Part 3)

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3 Table $2.50/$5 6-Max Zoom Session Review (Part 3)

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POSTED Sep 03, 2016

Mark concludes his look at a recent session of $500 Zoom, critiquing his own play and discussing his lines.

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Taiga 8 years, 7 months ago

Hey Mark nice video
1:50 T9s Isn't it still better to check turn here? He has a bunch of peels but doesn't he also have a lot of 7x that you won't have since you bet flop, and also a bunch of better 9x?

3:15 56o on the 97AQ board what hands would be in your db range ott and otr? How many bluff and value combos would you have ott and otr? What bet sizing would you use on each street? If you have like 40 bluff combos and 40 value combos ott, in theory what sizing are you supposed to use to make it so you don't overbluff, like what is the ratio of bluffs to value supposed to be ott?

17:45 why do you cbet this board at a low frequency?
Thanks :)

EluSiVeMark 8 years, 7 months ago

T9s: Think i prefer a check indeed. I did use a bigger sizing otf so his range is stronger than when i had used a smaller sizing. Our hand is also wel protected to a lot of river cards.

56o: I would use a mix of some Ax as checks and bets and bet usually anything better than that. As far as my bluffs it's going to be any gutter that can give me the nuts and anyoesd. I think the general opposition at 500 is somewhat balanced on boards like this with the x/ back range otf so we can't overbluff of vbet too thinly.

The problem with 40 bluffcombos and 40 "valuecombos" is that i think that not all our "valuebets" are getting called by worse. So i am not sure how to count the combos and be perfectly balanced in this spot.

17:45 do u mean the TJ5 3-way?

michaelph23 8 years, 7 months ago

24:57 87cc leading the river after c/c turn on KK86A board, u said that the sizing u pick reps hands like AQ AJ, and that villain is capped to Ax hands after not betting the flop, so I guess we always bet-call our Ax hands there, is that correct? Do we have better hands there?

EluSiVeMark 8 years, 7 months ago

I don't think he is protection betting the turn with AQ type of hands. He might have a occasional slowplay with AA,KK, or Kx but for the rest he is capped at QQ or less.

We don't have many stronger hands than Ax here ourself. So we can bet/call our stronger Ax to be balanced

Kaizen 8 years, 7 months ago

i like your thinking process on that hand but i would tend to bet more like 2/3 pot on the river as if often has a bluff catcheur and even if our range is capped i don't put vilain on a lot of Kx/boats either, maybe he can slowplay occasionnaly his weakest Kx but it would be very few combos ty for the vid btw interessing footage

Fishfeast 8 years, 7 months ago

21:00- kqo hand , river seems like a tough spot, qj seems liek a better bluff, can we still jam ak for value on this river? if not then is there any merit to just checking range on this river or perhaps opening up some sort of 20% river bet sizing

EluSiVeMark 8 years, 7 months ago

Good question. If he is going to look us up with AJ-AQ type of hands then it's probably a valuejam with AK.(and would QJ be a better bluff) If he isnt looking us up with those type of hands then QJ would be a worse bluff.
Still think we want to be jamming anything better than AK so maybe AK becomes a x/c as a standard.

Taiga 8 years, 7 months ago

Hey Mark yeah i meant the TJ5 board 3way at 17:45, why do you cbet this board at a low frequency?
Also again on that 56o hand how do you decide how often to bet those bluff combos that you will have on the turn? Since we'll definitely be overbluffing if we just bet every one of those on the turn and river right? Preflop is it standard for you to call 56o-9To vs 2.5x or is it just because you have a read on villain? How wide would you defend there, like would you also call any Qx suited and 35s+,74s+?
Thanks :) Hope you had a good vacation

EluSiVeMark 8 years, 7 months ago

Oop and 3 way my standard is to check quite often on middly type of boards that hit the cold calling ranges well. I develop more a x/c or x/r range.

We can bet more bluffs ott than on the river. Our bluffing range has equity vs his calling range and our valuebetting range is ahead of his calling range. So i think we can use something like a 1:1 ratio ott.
Otr depending on which types of hands we want to valuebet and which sizing we want to use for that range(polarised or depolarised) we can add bluffs at the right frequency.

My preflop calling range does depend on reads. I wouldn't go that wide without reads. It's important to know how well we get to realise our equity. Does he cbet a ton. Does he double barrel often, what is his wwsf% etc.

I am not exactly sure what my range here is and it probably varies a tiny bit on a daily basis.

Yeah had a great holiday thanks! :)

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