The problem with that hands is that besides the KK it has almost nothing to go for it. 3 or 4 way flopping overpair with 2ndnutFD on many boards will be only a trouble hand, especially gives the 3 clubs. And flopping the set has not as much implies as one might think since you either get no action or you get it in against strong draws with just little over 50% very often. All that said I think it´s close and I could be wrong but I just feel like I wouldn´t be making money with that call.
@ 22:45 You talk about taking the free card with the tight agg behind you. And then the original raiser leads for pot, and you just fold your wrap to one bet?
Since I only have 6 outs to the nuts and no real bluffing opportunities I think this is a very easy fold given that he pots. Even without the button I´d fold.
@ 11:35 You fold 3d 6d 8c Jc vs what seams to be a lose CO (pot) open. I was in an argument with my friend in a similar spot yesterday and my opinion is:
You have to play this hand be either flatting (my prefer) or 3 betting. Yes your hand is weak but you will connect with so many flops and you will take away many pots in position. It is a problem that the FDs are low but you are in position and will figure out if they are good or not. If you get 3bet from the blinds we are closing the action and have a easy call in a decent situation.
What is this the bottom of your Calling range in this situation with this type of hands? Where is my logic wrong if this is a fold?
The problem with this hand is that it plays very poorly MW, and one of the blinds will come along very frequently. Even if both blinds fold it´s still not a great spot. Yes, you are hu IP but with a hand that weak I don´t think that you can take much more of you fair share because implieds are not in you favor since you can be easily dominated if you flop marginal. Don´t forget how unconnected the hand is, not making many straights and unable to flop wraps.
Make the 3 a 5 and I think the hand becomes playable but I´d prefer to 3bet it since it plays much better HU.
At 3min, why u dont want 3bet the min open from UTG+1 with KQJ10so. He is 50bb deep so he should be a fish + min open= weakness. U can play a nice hand in position in a HU pot vs a fish = good spot. For sure it sucks to be 4betting but i dont think it's gonna happen often. Fish usually open 3x or 3.5x with AA and more often when they are short and in early position. I would rather call this hand vs early open from a good player and fish after me who can call for multi way pot.
At the bottom table with set 77 on the turn. Why not bet/fold the turn? 89 is a small part of his range. I think u still have good value vs 2 pairs/pair+draw/overpair+draw,... Many river suck for our hand and it's very possible that we still have the best hand on the turn. I would prefer bet/fold for value/protection.
I'm agree vilain's range is mostly KK/QQ/even maybe weak AA (+ FD). So what do you think about a smaller value bet on the river. Like 30. We loose value vs set 7 and straight. But I think it's a small part of his range. Like u said at the beginning of the hand -> Tight player call early open (his range is heavy high cards and big pairs) + we get a 7 --> so his range dont include lot of 7 and straight.
I dont think that kind of player can call 3 big barrels with KK/QQ. Even with AA, he could find a fold vs that line (3/4 bet river). We look very strong.
I'm not sure we can't get 3 streets value??!! do you really think he can fold second barrel turn with KK/AA? It's very hard for him. Same reasons on the river. I would bet turn and river 2/3 pot.
BTW you explained in the hand that the guy is very sticky postflop. For me it's one more reason to fire turn/river. If you get an agressive image, it's one more point.
Maybe bet 50% turn/river. But I mean the guy must be pretty skilled to fold his KK/AA
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Gooooood Morningg Stefan, awesome work, i always love the 1/2 vids you upload! keep up the great work~!
Very glad to hear, thx a lot.
8 mins - why did u open fold KK52ccc UTG
It´s much too weak imo. Bad playablility bad implieds. Easy fold.
and 47:27 KKJ3ccc on btn vs HJ open and CO flat with no short stacks in the blinds ... seems very bad
The problem with that hands is that besides the KK it has almost nothing to go for it. 3 or 4 way flopping overpair with 2ndnutFD on many boards will be only a trouble hand, especially gives the 3 clubs. And flopping the set has not as much implies as one might think since you either get no action or you get it in against strong draws with just little over 50% very often. All that said I think it´s close and I could be wrong but I just feel like I wouldn´t be making money with that call.
@ 22:45 You talk about taking the free card with the tight agg behind you. And then the original raiser leads for pot, and you just fold your wrap to one bet?
Since I only have 6 outs to the nuts and no real bluffing opportunities I think this is a very easy fold given that he pots. Even without the button I´d fold.
@ 11:35 You fold 3d 6d 8c Jc vs what seams to be a lose CO (pot) open. I was in an argument with my friend in a similar spot yesterday and my opinion is:
You have to play this hand be either flatting (my prefer) or 3 betting. Yes your hand is weak but you will connect with so many flops and you will take away many pots in position. It is a problem that the FDs are low but you are in position and will figure out if they are good or not. If you get 3bet from the blinds we are closing the action and have a easy call in a decent situation.
What is this the bottom of your Calling range in this situation with this type of hands?
Where is my logic wrong if this is a fold?
The problem with this hand is that it plays very poorly MW, and one of the blinds will come along very frequently. Even if both blinds fold it´s still not a great spot. Yes, you are hu IP but with a hand that weak I don´t think that you can take much more of you fair share because implieds are not in you favor since you can be easily dominated if you flop marginal. Don´t forget how unconnected the hand is, not making many straights and unable to flop wraps.
Make the 3 a 5 and I think the hand becomes playable but I´d prefer to 3bet it since it plays much better HU.
3:50 do u open all double pairs from mp?
7:16 top right: [Q973ss] is this bottom of your range to call 3bet?
hey anxaas, sorry for the late reply.
3:50; no I don´t. I wouldn´t open if they´re low, disconnected and offsuit.
7:16; BU vs sb I´d call all but the very weakes hands so also some which are weaker than this one.
Hey,
At 3min, why u dont want 3bet the min open from UTG+1 with KQJ10so. He is 50bb deep so he should be a fish + min open= weakness. U can play a nice hand in position in a HU pot vs a fish = good spot. For sure it sucks to be 4betting but i dont think it's gonna happen often. Fish usually open 3x or 3.5x with AA and more often when they are short and in early position. I would rather call this hand vs early open from a good player and fish after me who can call for multi way pot.
At the bottom table with set 77 on the turn. Why not bet/fold the turn? 89 is a small part of his range. I think u still have good value vs 2 pairs/pair+draw/overpair+draw,... Many river suck for our hand and it's very possible that we still have the best hand on the turn. I would prefer bet/fold for value/protection.
What do you think?
I'm french, sorry for my english
At 14.30min.
I'm agree vilain's range is mostly KK/QQ/even maybe weak AA (+ FD). So what do you think about a smaller value bet on the river. Like 30. We loose value vs set 7 and straight. But I think it's a small part of his range. Like u said at the beginning of the hand -> Tight player call early open (his range is heavy high cards and big pairs) + we get a 7 --> so his range dont include lot of 7 and straight.
I dont think that kind of player can call 3 big barrels with KK/QQ. Even with AA, he could find a fold vs that line (3/4 bet river). We look very strong.
mmm At 21min....
I'm not sure we can't get 3 streets value??!! do you really think he can fold second barrel turn with KK/AA? It's very hard for him. Same reasons on the river. I would bet turn and river 2/3 pot.
BTW you explained in the hand that the guy is very sticky postflop. For me it's one more reason to fire turn/river. If you get an agressive image, it's one more point.
Maybe bet 50% turn/river. But I mean the guy must be pretty skilled to fold his KK/AA
Hi Stefan, want to know how much the winrate could be in 1/2, thanks!
If Phil 2 tables and plays his A game I could imagine him having 20 BB / 100
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