Hey Zeljko Nice Video
2:32 Table 1 on 729Q how do you balance your bluffs with your value combos here? What are the best bluffs to pick in this spot? I know we shouldn't just barrel off with every gutter and FD but I find it hard to balance and I think I am definitely overbluffing in spots like these.
14:07 Table 1 on 42Qtt you 1/3 pot the flop, and on Table 4 43Jtt you go like 3/4. Are these boards so different that you use different sizings on each? Or do you have multiple bet sizings here?
2:32 - generally, you should make sure to always bluff with some kind of equity. For example, i had JT, but if I had 54, i would probably x back the flop. The way I look at it, with JT, i have 2 overcards, i dont have a backdoor flush option, but i do have a backdoor straight option which is fine. With 54, sure i may get a backdoor straight draw but, for example a 6 on the turn, can improve his range very much so i dont want to end up barrelling on a card that helps out my opponent.
Also, you say you feel like you will have too many bluffs on the turn, but you will also hit a top pair very often with QT QJ KQ. So now on the turn i have a top pair very often so I am okay with barelling hands like JT. Also, you can expand your value range on the turn as well. So if you feel like you have lots of bluffs, you can cbet the turn for value with A9 or K9 or J9. I suggest, if you think it will help, write down pretty much your entire range on the turn on a piece of paper, so all the hands you would cbet the flop with, and then if you still have too many bluffs, then see what hands you would prefer to x back on the turn and give up, which is completely fine.
14:07 - I have multiple best sizings, but with table number 1, it was vs a reg, and i cbet very little pretty much to just try and get a fold right away, its not a hand i plan to double or triple barrel. With table number 4, it was vs a unknown player, and i had a T of clubs, so I can be more aggressive. Also, one is BB and the other is SB, so SB flat call range is more tight than BB flat call range, so i have to apply more pressure.
Hey laguna,
Well its actually very close, when i think about it again, K6 i would fold for sure and K8 I would defend 100% of the time, so K7 just depends on your mood :)
I dont think we should defend every Kx off, I would rather 3bet or fold K3off for example, but wouldnt call.
At 9:30 with A8o vs the weaker player who reraises to $147, it feels like he is just clicking buttons trying to get you off your hand. I think most players will call here with their continuing range (Ax and flush draws) and only do this with monsters or air. Do you think we should either call or click it back to induce more bluffs? It feels like making it $438 will shut him down with his air (although you may have strong reads on this individual player).
The AKdd hand at 40mins. If he call your check raise on the turn, what is your plan on rivers?
Good video, nice to have 2 tables of both 200nl and 500nl. Looking forward to the next one.
Hi Fishfeast,
A8o - at the time i felt like he was on some kind of tilt and is ready to go allin with many weaker hands vs me. I wouldnt call, becuase we are deep, i dont want to get myself in a tough spot later on in the hand, since i dont have reads on him. So instead of doing what i did and raising a lot, I would suggest raising less, to about 300$.
AKdd - good question, and its a tough one, because its easier for me to answer it as im playing, because im in "the zone" :). With x-r line on the turn my range is really really strong almost always, and regs will assume the same, so when i do get called, they have to have something good as well so i dont think that i have fold equity by shoving on a blank river. So i will check the river. They dont have the odds either to call a fd, so they never have air.
Thanks for watching fishfeast, i will do a couple of more vids with that format :)
Hello Zeljko
02:12 : not sure why you prefer shoving AK than QQ vs the cold 4b spot. Did a quick sim :
07:40 A8dd
Looks like a call ? this hand is better than JJ/TT and you will valuebet some of your Qx on the river. You probably checkcall flop some AK AJ hands. So in you checking range on the river, A8 is a pretty good bluffcatcher ! I'd say easily in the 65% threshold
I noticed your flop cbet sizes are much bigger than the average 25-40% size. But you seem to cbet the same hands/same frequencies. Why do you prefer betting bigger ?
40:35 : AK hand turned into a bluff in 3bp on QJxK. If vilain bet/calls, are you betting blank rivers ? If you are, how much ?
Hi Ben,
I just personally like AK more because i block Ks and As, so im more likely to be vs Qs or Js and im happy with that coinflip. Whereas with Qs, im more likely to run into AA and KK. But you can call both on the button, since your IP, if your going for some kind of an exploit.
A8dd - I wont have a big x-c range with AK and AJ on that flop, so my range will mostly consist of pairs. This is one of the reasons why i folded, because im not stuck with many AK or AJ combos on the river so A8 is almost at the bottom. And the main reason why i folded, well, i just had some kind of a gut feeling that i should call it. I just dont see, the way the opponent snap checked the turn and his sizings, that such a bet/check/bet line will be a bluff. He is more likely to attack on the turn if he wants me to fold AK or AJ, rather than x back turn and then bet river.
My betsizes usually depend on what I want to accomplish, so sometimes 1/3 bet size fits into my plan, sometimes its a 2/3 bet size.
AKdd - I had just answered that question, i will copy/paste the answer below:
good question, and its a tough one, because its easier for me to answer it as im playing, because im in "the zone" :). With x-r line on the turn my range is really really strong almost always, and regs will assume the same, so when i do get called, they have to have something good as well so i dont think that i have fold equity by shoving on a blank river. So i will check the river. They dont have the odds either to call a fd, so they never have air.
Also i forgot to add, if I do get called, pot will be about 430$ and he will have about 280$, so again, not sure i have a fold equity.
Hey horVeech, i think i recognise your name from pokerstars, if that is you.
I am not sure if i understood you correctly, i guess you are asking why am I giving out so much info in the video? Sorry if i misunderstood.
But if that is the question, im not doing it for recognition, im just doing videos the way i think they are suppose to be done.
12:00 QQ hand, if villain bets half pot on the river, will you call with QQ? (I assume it is a polarized range, you will not consider shove to bluff?)
If villain shoves on the river, will you consider call off?
QQ - if he donk bets the river I am never calling, so its either a bluff raise or a fold.
But if I had xed back the turn, and he bets the river small, then I may call with QQ sometimes or bluff raise. But I would never call the river if he triple barrels this hand after 3betting sb vs UTG.
39:38 Why does villain can not QQQ or JJJ?
if villain does have AA or AK, do you think villain make a mistake by betting the turn? (because his hand does not need protect, and can not get too much value from worse hand, and can be blowed off his hand.
Hes not making a mistakes because not many ppl will raise the turn as a bluff. So hes trying to control the pot size by betting only 50% and having a safe decision on the river. If he checks the turn, then what if I bet a full pot, or overbet the river? hes stuck with a tough decision with AA so i guess hes just trying to avoid it.
6:37 table 2 - you call the squeeze pretty fast, is this not a bit ambitious to play such a weak hand when the SPR is going to be fairly low when we call, and cutoff is going to make us fold our hand a non zero %..? Thanks
Sorry, I didnt see your comment until now :( I apologize.
BB is a very aggressive player with large 3bet and large squeeze stats. When I call as MP, he will give my range certain respect and I can play postflop IP very well on certain boards. So having that in mind, he will have to x-f certain amount of hands, at least more often that someone with a smaller 3bet/sqeeuze %. Therefore I chose to stay in the hand.
Hi Zeljiko on that 2:32 729Q hand on the turn, should the bluff to value ratio be 1:1? I wrote out my range and it looks like I have 54 value combos and 80 possible bluff combos on the turn. What sizing do we need to choose if we have a 1:1 ratio?
Thanks :)
Hi Taiga,
I think more about my equity + fold equity + whether or not I have showdown value and so on, rather than bluff to value ratios. Its good to have a good foundation and be aware of bluff to value ratio's in certains spots, for example, it can help you determine if you are overbluffing in certain spots or if you have too many value hands in others, that way you can adjust.
But you shouldn't never say I want to have 1 to 1 bluff/value ratio and just stick with it no matter what, certain spots just don't allow you to do that and you will have a higher EV if you overbluff or simply value bet mostly.
@3:21 you 3b HIJ vs BTN $6 open to $21 at 100bb deep. Is this standard for you in these positions? I am used to using smaller 3b sizings when in position, is there something else you are trying to accomplish?
When I started playing poker, I was taught to always 3bet a full pot. And I did it for quite a long time. Later on my own i learned that (like you said), players 3bet IP a bit smaller than full pot, and a bit larger OOP. So I implemented the same strategy, I found that when 3 betting smaller IP it allows you to call 4bets slightly easier because the pot size is slightly smaller. And when OOP, you want to protect yourself. So that's what I usually prefer to do, sometimes it happens that I just click pot and do not adjust it. Overall, it doesn't make a significant impact right away, but over time it could mean a slightly higher EV for you!
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Hey Zeljko Nice Video
2:32 Table 1 on 729Q how do you balance your bluffs with your value combos here? What are the best bluffs to pick in this spot? I know we shouldn't just barrel off with every gutter and FD but I find it hard to balance and I think I am definitely overbluffing in spots like these.
14:07 Table 1 on 42Qtt you 1/3 pot the flop, and on Table 4 43Jtt you go like 3/4. Are these boards so different that you use different sizings on each? Or do you have multiple bet sizings here?
Hey Tiaga,
2:32 - generally, you should make sure to always bluff with some kind of equity. For example, i had JT, but if I had 54, i would probably x back the flop. The way I look at it, with JT, i have 2 overcards, i dont have a backdoor flush option, but i do have a backdoor straight option which is fine. With 54, sure i may get a backdoor straight draw but, for example a 6 on the turn, can improve his range very much so i dont want to end up barrelling on a card that helps out my opponent.
Also, you say you feel like you will have too many bluffs on the turn, but you will also hit a top pair very often with QT QJ KQ. So now on the turn i have a top pair very often so I am okay with barelling hands like JT. Also, you can expand your value range on the turn as well. So if you feel like you have lots of bluffs, you can cbet the turn for value with A9 or K9 or J9. I suggest, if you think it will help, write down pretty much your entire range on the turn on a piece of paper, so all the hands you would cbet the flop with, and then if you still have too many bluffs, then see what hands you would prefer to x back on the turn and give up, which is completely fine.
14:07 - I have multiple best sizings, but with table number 1, it was vs a reg, and i cbet very little pretty much to just try and get a fold right away, its not a hand i plan to double or triple barrel. With table number 4, it was vs a unknown player, and i had a T of clubs, so I can be more aggressive. Also, one is BB and the other is SB, so SB flat call range is more tight than BB flat call range, so i have to apply more pressure.
Hello Zeljko ,
18:00 Table 3. Is it not too tight to fold K7o bvb on steel ? . Should we not to def all Kx hands on steel regardless of steel size ? ( till 4bb) .
Hey laguna,
Well its actually very close, when i think about it again, K6 i would fold for sure and K8 I would defend 100% of the time, so K7 just depends on your mood :)
I dont think we should defend every Kx off, I would rather 3bet or fold K3off for example, but wouldnt call.
At 9:30 with A8o vs the weaker player who reraises to $147, it feels like he is just clicking buttons trying to get you off your hand. I think most players will call here with their continuing range (Ax and flush draws) and only do this with monsters or air. Do you think we should either call or click it back to induce more bluffs? It feels like making it $438 will shut him down with his air (although you may have strong reads on this individual player).
The AKdd hand at 40mins. If he call your check raise on the turn, what is your plan on rivers?
Good video, nice to have 2 tables of both 200nl and 500nl. Looking forward to the next one.
Hi Fishfeast,
A8o - at the time i felt like he was on some kind of tilt and is ready to go allin with many weaker hands vs me. I wouldnt call, becuase we are deep, i dont want to get myself in a tough spot later on in the hand, since i dont have reads on him. So instead of doing what i did and raising a lot, I would suggest raising less, to about 300$.
AKdd - good question, and its a tough one, because its easier for me to answer it as im playing, because im in "the zone" :). With x-r line on the turn my range is really really strong almost always, and regs will assume the same, so when i do get called, they have to have something good as well so i dont think that i have fold equity by shoving on a blank river. So i will check the river. They dont have the odds either to call a fd, so they never have air.
Thanks for watching fishfeast, i will do a couple of more vids with that format :)
Hello Zeljko
02:12 : not sure why you prefer shoving AK than QQ vs the cold 4b spot. Did a quick sim :
07:40 A8dd
Looks like a call ? this hand is better than JJ/TT and you will valuebet some of your Qx on the river. You probably checkcall flop some AK AJ hands. So in you checking range on the river, A8 is a pretty good bluffcatcher ! I'd say easily in the 65% threshold
I noticed your flop cbet sizes are much bigger than the average 25-40% size. But you seem to cbet the same hands/same frequencies. Why do you prefer betting bigger ?
40:35 : AK hand turned into a bluff in 3bp on QJxK. If vilain bet/calls, are you betting blank rivers ? If you are, how much ?
Hi Ben,
I just personally like AK more because i block Ks and As, so im more likely to be vs Qs or Js and im happy with that coinflip. Whereas with Qs, im more likely to run into AA and KK. But you can call both on the button, since your IP, if your going for some kind of an exploit.
A8dd - I wont have a big x-c range with AK and AJ on that flop, so my range will mostly consist of pairs. This is one of the reasons why i folded, because im not stuck with many AK or AJ combos on the river so A8 is almost at the bottom. And the main reason why i folded, well, i just had some kind of a gut feeling that i should call it. I just dont see, the way the opponent snap checked the turn and his sizings, that such a bet/check/bet line will be a bluff. He is more likely to attack on the turn if he wants me to fold AK or AJ, rather than x back turn and then bet river.
My betsizes usually depend on what I want to accomplish, so sometimes 1/3 bet size fits into my plan, sometimes its a 2/3 bet size.
AKdd - I had just answered that question, i will copy/paste the answer below:
good question, and its a tough one, because its easier for me to answer it as im playing, because im in "the zone" :). With x-r line on the turn my range is really really strong almost always, and regs will assume the same, so when i do get called, they have to have something good as well so i dont think that i have fold equity by shoving on a blank river. So i will check the river. They dont have the odds either to call a fd, so they never have air.
Also i forgot to add, if I do get called, pot will be about 430$ and he will have about 280$, so again, not sure i have a fold equity.
TT #1, 9:25 bb/btn, you are folding vs turn bet A9xFD after checking behind flop. WHAT?
Hi IamYoPrincess
Sorry, forgot to mention in the video that his vpp/pfr is 14 10 after 506 hands, so i combined that with my range and folded.
once again Z great video, great explanations!!
Thanks ddogkillah! New one is coming out soon :)
zeljko, you are a big talent, but you are putting too much out there.
What do you need the recognition for? Its just in your head...
Hey horVeech, i think i recognise your name from pokerstars, if that is you.
I am not sure if i understood you correctly, i guess you are asking why am I giving out so much info in the video? Sorry if i misunderstood.
But if that is the question, im not doing it for recognition, im just doing videos the way i think they are suppose to be done.
10:10, if you have 99, 77, or 33, will you with the C/R on the flop? (You might treat 33 differently)
If you do call the flop C/R, will you call the turn bet?
Thanks
Hey pokeryjj,
Sorry im not sure what hand you are talking about, let me know and I'll respond.
12:00 QQ hand, if villain bets half pot on the river, will you call with QQ? (I assume it is a polarized range, you will not consider shove to bluff?)
If villain shoves on the river, will you consider call off?
QQ - if he donk bets the river I am never calling, so its either a bluff raise or a fold.
But if I had xed back the turn, and he bets the river small, then I may call with QQ sometimes or bluff raise. But I would never call the river if he triple barrels this hand after 3betting sb vs UTG.
39:38 Why does villain can not QQQ or JJJ?
if villain does have AA or AK, do you think villain make a mistake by betting the turn? (because his hand does not need protect, and can not get too much value from worse hand, and can be blowed off his hand.
Hes not making a mistakes because not many ppl will raise the turn as a bluff. So hes trying to control the pot size by betting only 50% and having a safe decision on the river. If he checks the turn, then what if I bet a full pot, or overbet the river? hes stuck with a tough decision with AA so i guess hes just trying to avoid it.
Nice video. I would like you to talk more about the difference between two limits in the next part.
Hey muzmov,
I think i recognise your name from pokerstars also. I will keep that in mind and I will mention a few things.
You have some of the best hand explanations for mid stakes players on RIO. Thanks for the videos.
Hey erict87, thanks!!
6:37 table 2 - you call the squeeze pretty fast, is this not a bit ambitious to play such a weak hand when the SPR is going to be fairly low when we call, and cutoff is going to make us fold our hand a non zero %..? Thanks
Hey electirc_blue,
Sorry, I didnt see your comment until now :( I apologize.
BB is a very aggressive player with large 3bet and large squeeze stats. When I call as MP, he will give my range certain respect and I can play postflop IP very well on certain boards. So having that in mind, he will have to x-f certain amount of hands, at least more often that someone with a smaller 3bet/sqeeuze %. Therefore I chose to stay in the hand.
Hi Zeljiko on that 2:32 729Q hand on the turn, should the bluff to value ratio be 1:1? I wrote out my range and it looks like I have 54 value combos and 80 possible bluff combos on the turn. What sizing do we need to choose if we have a 1:1 ratio?
Thanks :)
Hi Taiga,
I think more about my equity + fold equity + whether or not I have showdown value and so on, rather than bluff to value ratios. Its good to have a good foundation and be aware of bluff to value ratio's in certains spots, for example, it can help you determine if you are overbluffing in certain spots or if you have too many value hands in others, that way you can adjust.
But you shouldn't never say I want to have 1 to 1 bluff/value ratio and just stick with it no matter what, certain spots just don't allow you to do that and you will have a higher EV if you overbluff or simply value bet mostly.
@3:21 you 3b HIJ vs BTN $6 open to $21 at 100bb deep. Is this standard for you in these positions? I am used to using smaller 3b sizings when in position, is there something else you are trying to accomplish?
hello,
When I started playing poker, I was taught to always 3bet a full pot. And I did it for quite a long time. Later on my own i learned that (like you said), players 3bet IP a bit smaller than full pot, and a bit larger OOP. So I implemented the same strategy, I found that when 3 betting smaller IP it allows you to call 4bets slightly easier because the pot size is slightly smaller. And when OOP, you want to protect yourself. So that's what I usually prefer to do, sometimes it happens that I just click pot and do not adjust it. Overall, it doesn't make a significant impact right away, but over time it could mean a slightly higher EV for you!
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