$25/$50 HU Zoom and $10/$20 6-Max PLO (part 6)

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$25/$50 HU Zoom and $10/$20 6-Max PLO (part 6)

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Phil Galfond

POSTED Dec 24, 2018

In part 6 of his high stakes 6 Max/ HU series, Phil Galfond aka MrSweets28 touches on the topics of equity denial, elasticity, and the dangers of making adjustments based on small sample sizes.

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Spelly89 6 years, 2 months ago

Hey Phil Galfond

Merry Xmas

On the T932 hand, what bluff/semi bluff hands take this line? If we call flop with a hand like this versus his three betting range, what hands should we raise with to put pressure on his AA/KK that aren't sets? If we only do so with say, T987 with hearts or AT87 with hearts, it feels like we aren't raising enough on a board that should favour our range. Also, as played, how would the bluffing part of our range differ versus a range that full pots both turn and river? Are there any tools that you can use to help balance these ranges for all different sizes in play other than solvers? I find in these spots I get lost and ending up playing my hand too face up. As a small and mid stakes recreational player, I end up getting owned far too often against the good regs when ranges start to get narrower and thinking hands through become much more complex. Videos from yourself/Cory/Richard have really helped, but more videos like this would help crystallise how I approach these spots going forward.

Phil Galfond 6 years, 2 months ago

Merry Xmas, Spelly89! I'm glad to hear you're finding the advice of Cory, Richard and me helpful!

You've posed some difficult questions and unfortunately, have caught me while I've got a house full of family in town!

The main thing I'll say is that you don't need to raise this flop often in order to take advantage of the favorable board. By calling (a lot), you'll put your opponent in very difficult spots on low-mid turns and rivers with a high SPR, whereas raising on the flop let's him shove his nut flush draws, his QQ87 hands, etc. without needing to suffer the disadvantages of dealing with unpleasant turns on a low, dynamic board out of position.

You have so many one-pair, flush draw, or straight draw hands that don't want to raise, and you can capitalize on so much fold equity with them on future streets.

My hand, top and bottom pair with no redraw, isn't a great one when our opponent continues (with a call or raise), so I wouldn't choose this hand even if I were opting to raise this flop often. We aren't pushing much equity (we're behind a shoving range) and we won't have good visibility on future streets in a bloated pot if he calls flop.

I hope this was helpful, but feel free to ask followups if you have them. Just please excuse me if I'm a bit slow replying!

nittyoldman 6 years, 2 months ago

on the last hand with bare 67 on 295xxy 8 3, especially with your comment about - sasuke has been doing some thin protection betting in these spots: Do you think it makes sense to develop a XC turn, lead river range? obviously the nuts will change somewhat frequently on this texture and that makes XC your hand usually better than XR, but I feel like in this spot vs these type of opponents that like to take these protection/value minded BBX lines, we just never ever get that 3rd barrel from them thin for value, and we only see it when they're chopping or bluffing with 66, 77 (which you heavily block), so they just take showdown IP otr and we miss a street

Phil Galfond 6 years, 2 months ago

I definitely think it makes sense to develop a xc -> lead river range. I think we need one in general, but especially against villains like this.

nittyoldman 6 years, 2 months ago

42:40 Could you explain why you say the unpaired bluffs should fit into the small sizing and the paired ones into the large size?

Phil Galfond 6 years, 2 months ago

This spot isn't the perfect example because villain does call a small turn bet, which removes most unpaired hands from his range.

In general, if your opponent can have air, the main reason to bet the pure bottom of your range is to make him fold the bottom of his (which still beats you), and it works well to choose a small sizing with these hands to accomplish that goal if you're going to have multiple sizings.

In this hand, villain can have some 3 or 4-overcard missed heart draws, but they make up such a small % of his range that I think this concept becomes relatively unimportant.

wazzo11 6 years, 2 months ago

Hi Phill, great content again. Ive written a few times in a few different threads, without much of a response but a lot of the NLHE HU community (that I'm involved with) are considering leaving RIO due the lack of content available. Lots already have. There is no MS-HS content and now Xraiser is not producing vids, neither is there any low stakes either. I know we are still a smaller part of the community than full ring, MTT and PLO but this is pretty worrying. Any plans to change this / hire new coaches? Many thanks

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