Nice vid, Owen. You mentioned that you use your calc for pot-odds. I can strongly recommend purchasing "StarsHelper". That will be a lot easier for you :)
Watched some of your other videos and really enjoyed them. Have to say was quite disapointed here. A4s was a questionable squeeze imo. Sure we generate a decent amount of folds from limper but 4 players behind and 30% when called. Think there are better spots with 12bb. Suited k bb vs sb. Maybe your standard line is to raise with a 10 but i'd be expecting a solid player to flat 10 100% and give you a 6 or air. Why not float? Back door equity and luxury of seeing if he gives up on the turn. Aq while i think on river he has more value combos he has a tonne of draws which have a mandatory bluff once checked to if we bet we maintain control and possibly get folds from stubborn pp's. Dont mean to rant as I say I have enjoyed other content but all I learned here was how to double with AA :)
Hi Lee,
Sorry you didn't find the video useful. To reply to your comments. The A4s hand as I said as I shoved the Russian guy was sitting out so only 3 people behind us. I did some calcs in ICMizer and if he was sitting in giving all people left to act reasonable calling and overcalling ranges then the shove is + 0.5bbs and with him sitting out its +0.85bbs. Anything that nets me over 0.5bbs in the long run I'm very happy to take. Sure we can find better spots but we also might be card dead for 2 orbits and be down to 6-7k just like that.
With the suited K hand this is something I have started to add to my game which is to attack more flops and I think this is a good spot to do it in. Sure we get rebluffed off the spot sometimes but we are putting our opponent in a really difficult situation where they have to bluff off their whole stack when I will have a T here quite often when I raise. If they have a marginal hand they will quite often be facing further bets on future streets so we are also putting pressure on them that way too. All in all from my experiments these spots have worked a treat for me so I'm perfectly happy with how and why I played it. Also I understand why you think a solid player would flat a T 100% but I feel that that thinking is wrong. If you can develop a raising range here which covers bluffs and value it makes you much much harder to play against IMO.
With the AQ I did some calcs in CREV and it may well be a call. Its pretty close though and we need to decide if he is checking back his AT hands on the flop. You say he has a tonne of missed draws but if you look at most of those draws I doubt he checks them back on the flop. Anything he 3bs that had a T will be bet. T9s, JT,QT, and KT will be bet. AT may be checked behind but I would say its CB on this flop a fairly high % of the time by most people. So what can he ch behind? AK, AQ for sure but why does he try a small bluff with them on the river when they have showdown value and I can easily have a J here. I don't really see what other bluffs he has. I really doubt he is just gonna 3b A5hh here and then check back the flop with it so pretty much the only draws I can see him having here is AT that checks back the flop and calls turn. Having said that if he has all combos of AT in his range then this is for sure a call but in game the way the hand played out I feel like he has value on the river just a huge % of the time.
Hi Owen, thanks for taking the time out for such a long and detailed reply. I must say when you break it down like this I get so much more out of it, as it really gives me an insight into your thought process throughout the hand. The way you broke it down here very much justifies your play in each hand.
I didn't mean to sound overly critical and very much enjoy your videos. Look forward to more content!
No problem Lee. Its good for people to keep me on my toes! And also never be afraid to challenge any of the instructors on runitonce. We have all made a living from playing poker but none of us can claim to play or evaluate every spot perfectly especially in live videos :)
Why don't u flat 44 at 44~minute? If you flat here the reg direct to your left is more likely to jam his 10BB as he is very agresive ( that is what you mentioned before ). 44 should make a lot of money here calling him.
I think flatting here with our stack size is not that great. The play you talk about might profitable but not nearly as profitable as you think. Firstly we have 2 other players after the short stack left to act and also the original raiser. So if he does shove and someone else calls we have to fold. This means that x% of the time we put in 2bbs and fold preflop already. Another x% of the time the reg folds and we have to play a pot with a fairly small stack to pot ratio with a baby pair up against at least one opponent, more likely two though. Then the final thing is that when it all works out as we planned we have 44 so we are only happy to see A2, A3, 33 and 22. Sure we have enough equity to call if that scenario does play out but with all the chips we have lost the x amount of times other stuff happens it means I think this would not be the best play in this situation.
Not so much a fan of flop raise K3s BB vs SB on 10106. You rep like nothing and even if u are trying to balance with 10x, you have 10x like once in a blue moon there. And Why would you even raise 10x there. When its like 10 times better to let him barrel of hands that are worse
Like float / call a lot more, and see what happens on turn.
Or even 3B pre, he may fold a bunch, and even if called you can win it post quite a lot of the time being IP and repping the stronger range.
And K3s its not like such a good hand that its to good to 3B bluff preflop.
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Nice vid, Owen. You mentioned that you use your calc for pot-odds. I can strongly recommend purchasing "StarsHelper". That will be a lot easier for you :)
Great video!
Btw that guy from Russia just owns the table lol=)
Watched some of your other videos and really enjoyed them. Have to say was quite disapointed here. A4s was a questionable squeeze imo. Sure we generate a decent amount of folds from limper but 4 players behind and 30% when called. Think there are better spots with 12bb. Suited k bb vs sb. Maybe your standard line is to raise with a 10 but i'd be expecting a solid player to flat 10 100% and give you a 6 or air. Why not float? Back door equity and luxury of seeing if he gives up on the turn. Aq while i think on river he has more value combos he has a tonne of draws which have a mandatory bluff once checked to if we bet we maintain control and possibly get folds from stubborn pp's. Dont mean to rant as I say I have enjoyed other content but all I learned here was how to double with AA :)
Hi Lee,
Sorry you didn't find the video useful. To reply to your comments. The A4s hand as I said as I shoved the Russian guy was sitting out so only 3 people behind us. I did some calcs in ICMizer and if he was sitting in giving all people left to act reasonable calling and overcalling ranges then the shove is + 0.5bbs and with him sitting out its +0.85bbs. Anything that nets me over 0.5bbs in the long run I'm very happy to take. Sure we can find better spots but we also might be card dead for 2 orbits and be down to 6-7k just like that.
With the suited K hand this is something I have started to add to my game which is to attack more flops and I think this is a good spot to do it in. Sure we get rebluffed off the spot sometimes but we are putting our opponent in a really difficult situation where they have to bluff off their whole stack when I will have a T here quite often when I raise. If they have a marginal hand they will quite often be facing further bets on future streets so we are also putting pressure on them that way too. All in all from my experiments these spots have worked a treat for me so I'm perfectly happy with how and why I played it. Also I understand why you think a solid player would flat a T 100% but I feel that that thinking is wrong. If you can develop a raising range here which covers bluffs and value it makes you much much harder to play against IMO.
With the AQ I did some calcs in CREV and it may well be a call. Its pretty close though and we need to decide if he is checking back his AT hands on the flop. You say he has a tonne of missed draws but if you look at most of those draws I doubt he checks them back on the flop. Anything he 3bs that had a T will be bet. T9s, JT,QT, and KT will be bet. AT may be checked behind but I would say its CB on this flop a fairly high % of the time by most people. So what can he ch behind? AK, AQ for sure but why does he try a small bluff with them on the river when they have showdown value and I can easily have a J here. I don't really see what other bluffs he has. I really doubt he is just gonna 3b A5hh here and then check back the flop with it so pretty much the only draws I can see him having here is AT that checks back the flop and calls turn. Having said that if he has all combos of AT in his range then this is for sure a call but in game the way the hand played out I feel like he has value on the river just a huge % of the time.
Hi Owen, thanks for taking the time out for such a long and detailed reply. I must say when you break it down like this I get so much more out of it, as it really gives me an insight into your thought process throughout the hand. The way you broke it down here very much justifies your play in each hand.
I didn't mean to sound overly critical and very much enjoy your videos. Look forward to more content!
No problem Lee. Its good for people to keep me on my toes! And also never be afraid to challenge any of the instructors on runitonce. We have all made a living from playing poker but none of us can claim to play or evaluate every spot perfectly especially in live videos :)
Why don't u flat 44 at 44~minute? If you flat here the reg direct to your left is more likely to jam his 10BB as he is very agresive ( that is what you mentioned before ). 44 should make a lot of money here calling him.
I think flatting here with our stack size is not that great. The play you talk about might profitable but not nearly as profitable as you think. Firstly we have 2 other players after the short stack left to act and also the original raiser. So if he does shove and someone else calls we have to fold. This means that x% of the time we put in 2bbs and fold preflop already. Another x% of the time the reg folds and we have to play a pot with a fairly small stack to pot ratio with a baby pair up against at least one opponent, more likely two though. Then the final thing is that when it all works out as we planned we have 44 so we are only happy to see A2, A3, 33 and 22. Sure we have enough equity to call if that scenario does play out but with all the chips we have lost the x amount of times other stuff happens it means I think this would not be the best play in this situation.
Not so much a fan of flop raise K3s BB vs SB on 10106. You rep like nothing and even if u are trying to balance with 10x, you have 10x like once in a blue moon there. And Why would you even raise 10x there. When its like 10 times better to let him barrel of hands that are worse
Like float / call a lot more, and see what happens on turn.
Or even 3B pre, he may fold a bunch, and even if called you can win it post quite a lot of the time being IP and repping the stronger range.
And K3s its not like such a good hand that its to good to 3B bluff preflop.
Anyway just my opinion.
Thanks for the reply, I think I answered this question in my reply to Leefost above.
How can I setup your different kind of HUD on PT4?
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