Hello RioZg
I won't be answering questions on/about previous videos. Time is a limited resource and run it once has thousands of videos so coaches are not expected to answer comments from old videos. I'm sure you can see how that makes sense.
I'm using an approach of answering all comments from my latest video within the week it was posted. So if you want your doubts to be answered, please make sure to post them within such time frame.
Support told me about your complaint and I believe they already gave a pretty good answer. I can't make an exception for you otherwise I would have to make one for everyone that felt as strongly as you about solving specific doubts, and then all of a sudden I would have to answer all question from all my previous videos. You can see how this is not sustainable.
If you watch this new video I'm sure you can think of many more things to ask so go ahead! :D
The support was very friendly, patient and understanding but they did not answer the questions for you. They merely acknowledged the validity of the questions and explained to an extent why you are not required to answer every single minutia from every question.
If it is a site-wide policy that questions past one week get no answer then commenting in the thread should be locked. If it is your policy then you should lock your own threads. It was not my experience up to this point.
But we'll play by your rules.
Question from this video (I am posting on 14th of October, i.e. on 2nd post-publishing day of you video, hence within a week's range):
Timeline from this video:
0:27 RFI 8Ts from CO for 3 BB
0:57 RFI 22 from UTG for 2.4 BB
12:06 RFI AQs from UTG for 2.4 BB
From that I drew the conclusion that you open smaller from early positions and larger from later.
Question that follows is:
REVERSE PREFLOP RFI SIZING
It seems you got it backwards from what everybody else is teaching. Big from early, small from late positions. Quick rationale is that by raising big in early positions you discourage loose calls by players who have position on you. You do not want J5s and K7offsuits of the world with significant equity vs. 44 on your back. You also want to build the pot with your premiums. From the late positions you steal as much as possible for as little as possible.
WHY DO YOU HAVE IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?
In the interest of time-saving which I am sure you can appreciate I allowed myself to copy and paste the question.
Hey. I don't think there is a strict policy in the site when it comes to an acceptable time frame for answering comments/questions. I think one week is a pretty reasonable amount of time, since most of the views will probably come within that span. I've told support about my approach and received no further complaints. That said, I agree with your argument, and I think Rio should implement locking threads after a certain period of time, since its misleading for the viewer who will expect replies to their questions when there is the option to ask. And when you browse Rio videos, you see that there are many of them with often many questions unanswered since videos can be quite old.
Lets now get to your question.
From that I drew the conclusion that you open smaller from early positions and larger from later.
Yes thats correct.
It seems you got it backwards from what everybody else is teaching. Big from early, small from late positions
This, however, is not. The vast majority of regs - probably more than 90% - open very small from early and middle position. It varies from player to player but very few open to a size bigger than 2.5x. I've also never seen personally a video producer advocate large sizings from such positions.
When it comes to late position, you are correct that most regs advise smaller sizes and thats what most regulars use. I don't think it ultimately makes a big difference to your winrate so it isn't something you should spend too much energy on, specially if you are not beating midstakes games yet for example. But I did some research over how population reacts preflop vs 2x, 2.5x and 3x and based on my study the 3x size performs better than the other sizings. It was a limited study, because for example if I had included other sizings such as 2.25x or 3.5x I might have concluded that one of them was best. But its very time consuming to do preflop work on solvers so I picked the 3 most frequent sizes for my study.
Whats most important is to open the correct range your sizing of choice, not necessarily the sizing itself, at least when it comes to EV. Also be aware of the fact that changing your preflop sizing will change your opponent's defense strategy. So for example if nowadays you open 2x and decide tomorrow to start opening 3x, you will have a pretty different postflop situation to play since your opponent's defense range will have changed a lot. So focus on studying your range for your sizing of choice and also OOP's defense range vs your specific size.
1:15 Table 2: I haven´t study this type of boards (2 broadway +1 low card) EP vs BB. I use mainly a 1/3p. What do you think about using a polarized cbetting strategy instead of range betting since villain should have a tighter range here (compared to BTN vs BB) and less air in his range than on a really dry board like as example K43r?
5:40 Table 1: As already mentioned haven´t put much study into this spot. However, wouldn´t it make sense to polarize ourself here by checking a lot (including some overpairs which do not need protection like AA/KK) and when betting using a bigger sizing due to the fact that this board is very good for the BB?
11:00 Table 3: I know villain from the 100z pool. He is very nitty and uses a pretty polarized 3bing strategy (which you find quite often below 200z). What is your opinion by not 4bing monker ranges when having such a read? Reason beeing is that we are wasting hands like AJs, KQs, KJs, etc at decent freq. as 4bet bluffs when they have a lot of EV as a call vs ppl who 3bet polarized ranges and fold quite often vs 4bets. Imo hands like AQo, etc perform here better as an exploit.
15:20 Table 3: I am pretty sure that the solver prefers here to range bet. What´s the reason to use a polar bet size on the flop?
1:15 Table 2: I haven´t study this type of boards (2 broadway +1 low card) EP vs BB. I use mainly a 1/3p. What do you think about using a polarized cbetting strategy instead of range betting since villain should have a tighter range here (compared to BTN vs BB) and less air in his range than on a really dry board like as example K43r?
Yes that makes sense. I would do that vs reasonable regs.
5:40 Table 1: As already mentioned haven´t put much study into this spot. However, wouldn´t it make sense to polarize ourself here by checking a lot (including some overpairs which do not need protection like AA/KK) and when betting using a bigger sizing due to the fact that this board is very good for the BB?
Yes, same as above. Thats how most likely the solver constructs the cbet range. However against recreation players I'm not going to try and play like solver most of the time.
11:00 Table 3: I know villain from the 100z pool. He is very nitty and uses a pretty polarized 3bing strategy (which you find quite often below 200z). What is your opinion by not 4bing monker ranges when having such a read? Reason beeing is that we are wasting hands like AJs, KQs, KJs, etc at decent freq. as 4bet bluffs when they have a lot of EV as a call vs ppl who 3bet polarized ranges and fold quite often vs 4bets. Imo hands like AQo, etc perform here better as an exploit.
Yes that would be a fine adjustment I think. Don't think you will ever see these types of strategies from regulars at 200nl+ tho.
15:20 Table 3: I am pretty sure that the solver prefers here to range bet. What´s the reason to use a polar bet size on the flop?
Probably not that sure :D Solver will mix large bets and small bets here, with some checks as well. In most flop decisions I will just pick one sizing and build my strategy around it. Here I prefer using the larger sizing and polarizing my cbetting range because that leads to a more natural range construction on future streets, therefore allowing me to make fewer mistakes. That said, picking the small bet and cbetting at a high frequency is also totally fine from an EV perspective. Maybe you want to use both sizes as well! As long as you understand the range interactions on future streets, flop strategy won't matter too much.
Thanks for the response, Saulo. Regarding the last part of your answer:
Maybe you want to use both sizes as well! As long as you understand the range interactions on future streets, flop strategy won't matter too much.
Wouldn´t you say that the range interaction on future is a function of the flop strategy? What I mean by this is that a poor range construction on the flop would yield to a poor strategy on future streets. One example would be using 2 bet sizes and not having strong/medium strength hands in our small bet sizing. Vs recs I think it doesn´t matter and we can freestyle a bit more. However, vs stronger regulars I am more comfortable
currently just having one sizing on the flop and playing a simplified strategy.
Yes, thats the reason why I play only one sizing on the flop. Using more than that brings a very disproportionate return compared to the complexity + the amount of mistakes you can make.
Hey Saulo, very nice video format, great pace, great content...
29:25 min CO: T8dd in 3b pot vs. BTN
You have a massive range disadvantage on this K53dsd board and a small nuts advantage as BTN is not supposed to have all combos of 55 and 33s in his range.
CO range contains way too many medium strength hands like medium connectors, under pairs and suited Broadways and not enough enough clear value combos to be able to justify x/ring all out FD. T8dd works better as a call here. If we start raising this kind of FD, we end up with too many bluffing combos. Hands like A5dd, A4dd are a clear x/r, and its fine to include the nut type FD. Simply x/c ing the medium type FD seems like the best play here. Other bluff candidates that show a better EV are hands like 76dd or 54dd for obv reasons.
A x/r OTF strategy on these K high boards with 2 low cards with FD =>
1/ x/r nut flush draws with a decent frequency but not always to be able to have some nut flushes OTT and protect your x range.
2/ Choose FD combos that connect with the lower cards OTF and can turn SD or GS as well like 76dd, 54dd, 65dd
3/ x/c medium strength FD like T8dd
Let me know what your thoughts are please.
Again, your videos are very valuable to the community!
The approach you outlined above has some merits. For example, check raising 76dd 54dd 65dd much more often then say T high or J high flushdraws makes sense and it will happen in solver strategy. However I think overall it's too simplistic when it comes to trying to achive a pseudo-gto strategy. I think such range construction is totally fine in terms of simplification tho, and it will yield a pretty similar EV to a more balanced strategy.
At equillibrium most combos will be played as mixed strategies in the majority of the nodes. They are a product of 2 players maximally exploiting each other. When you start playing too many combos as pure strategies, your strategy will eventually become unbalanced and exploitable.
In this hand, you can see here that T8dd is a mixed strategy between raising and calling, which means that both have exactly the same EV vs a perfect opponent. That said, it is a low-ish frequency raise as I predcited in the video. If I XR more than that then for sure my range will become unbalanced towards bluffs. If you take a look at my RNG at the time of the decision, you will see it was showing 14.58. The way I use the RNG is as follows:
Low numbers will represent the most aggressive strategic option
High numbers represent the most passive strategic option.
With that hand I have only 2 strategic options - call or raise.
Then I pick the number (lets call it X) from the RNG and ask myself: will this combo be played at least X% of the time as the most aggressive option? If I think the answer is yes, then I choose the most aggressive action. If not, then the most passive.
Back to the hand, I asked myself: will this hand get raised at least 14.58% of the time at equillibrium? And my answer was Yes, I thought XRaising that hand around 15-20% of the time would be totally fine. So I raised. You can see above that I was correct.
Also, keep in mind that most regs these days cbet their entire range for simplification on boards where their cbet frequency is naturally pretty high (as it is here). Against someone cbetting their entire range, T8dd check-raises much more often.
For more information on how to use RNG to randomize your play, watch this video from Sauce. Hope that helped!
I don't think that developing an overbet strategy on this wet board that does not favor any range makes sense here. CO has a slight rng advantage due to overpairs that BB is not supposed to have but thats about it. BB has all sets (less combos of TTs but still has some)... depends how he constructs his defending range. BB also has less top pair here but thats about it really. All sets are in both ranges. BB has slightly more 2 pairs type hands though. What I mean by that is that CO not having a rng or nuts adv should not allow him to have an effective overbet strategy here.
33% PSB CB seems the correct play here with close to 100% rng.
If we decide to overbet this Flop, hands like QJs and QTs are supposed to x/r us aggressively but here we block those which is a concern. We also block possible floats like KQ... It looks like this sizing helps BB play an easier strategy and responds well to our bet size.
OTT 3h: Clearly a better card for bb rng. QQ does not need as much protection as OTF. Our range should be played with a high frequency check. QQ or KK included.
It seems like you have a very distorted view over how both ranges interact here on this board. Vs my 3x sizing preflop villain should not call T9o and should 3bet most of his 99 and TT. He also obviously has no overpairs. So I do have a signifcant equity and nut advantage on this board => IP Overpair+OOP Overpair+Equities
This is the cbet strategy for IP player. As you can see, only the overbet sizing is used, and 1/3 is never used. It doesn't make much sense to bet 1/3 on this board because it doesn't accomplish anything. Pretty much any hand in both players ranges have some equity on this board. We bet very large since we have a significant nut advatange and we are interested in denying equity to a lot of our opponent's good-equity hands, which will have to fold vs such a large bet, such as KJ, KQ, AQ, AJ, AXcc etc.
WRT the turn, you are correct that the 3h favors the OOP player. But that doesn't mean we should check QQ with a heart there. As you can see here, QhQx is a very high frequency bet on this turn.
I recommend you to take a look at these hands you feel strongly about before posting your thoughts here. Proving you wrong in the comments section is not a fun exercise neither for me or for you. Perhaps asking why I made such play when you perceive something else to be correct is a better approach then just saying this or that doesn't make sense, when you could actually be completely wrong.
Hello ikol . I haven't yet tried GG but it is in my plans for the near future since I'm playing 500nl+ exclusively nowadays and 500z doesn't run 24/7. I prefer stars for many reasons. First and most important is that my winrate is pretty high there so I don't feel the need to hunt softer games. Other arguments are the great software, the great zoom action for my stakes and the opportunity to adjust to individual players very effectively. GG has the donwside of not providing HHs which is pretty bad. Other sites like bodog (which I occasionaly play) have the downside of being anonymous, which forces you to play vs population as whole.
Nice video as always. I have a general question and a few specific questions on the hands.
First, the general question: You don't seem to use a HUD or villain stats like VPIP/PFR. Instead you seem to rely on profiling players and then deducing their tendencies in a particular spot. Is this approach a function of Zoom player pool (which may be large, and thus you can't get enough sample size for stats to converge?). I play on a site which has regular tables and a smallish player pool, so I was wondering if this kind of thing might not be applicable to me since I can often get a decent sample size for stats. I do profile players and take notes on them, but I rely heavily on stats as well.
Now for the specific questions:
Around 22:00, the 3-bet hand with AK on the BTN. You elect to jam against a donk bet on the turn. Are you mostly doing this with value? Or are you overbluffing this spot, since your range should be pretty good and the donk bet seems kinda weak? What kind of bluffs would you choose? The obvious ones like FDs and broadways?
Around minute 31:00. The 3-bet hand with T8s.
Preflop, is T8s a standard defend for you with a 3x open and 3x 3-bet? I tend to mostly fold this hand.
Flop seems fine. Are you raising any kind of Kx here? IP I think there's very little raising in 3-bet pots as PFC when you're IP, but OOP I think there can be some amount of raising?
Turn, the 3 kind of doesn't interact too much with both of the ranges. But Villain could have A3s sometimes, while you don't ever really have a 3 in your range. So what kind of range are you representing when you barrel here?
I do use a HUD, I just don't show it in the videos.
AK hand - against recreational players Im gonna play hand vs range not range vs range. In other words, there is no concern about balancing. Shoving some combo draws there is probably fine.
T8s hand - yeah preflop is very close. Regs are 3betting a lot in those positions nowadays tho so calling is likely +EV. On the flop yeah definitely raising some Kx, mainly KQ and some KJ. On that turn I will check a lot and keep barreling some flush draws, KQ, 55 and 33.
Hey Saulo Ribeiro - Another excellent video! At 30:30 you defend the BB vs CO with Q8 of spades and the flop comes 6c4s9d. You check and villain cbets half pot and you fold. Obviously this is likely the most standard play, but I was wondering with SO many good turns for your hand if this could be a good combination to check-raise bluff flop? And if not, why not? Any turn consisting of a 5, 7, T, J or Spade makes for a good barrel, and a turned Q (or even 8) may be good vs his range. I am asking because it seems that I may definitely be over check-raising this type of board with this type of hand. Any Super Saiyan Saulo thoughts on this spot? Or has the elementary nature of my question simply made me look dumb? =P Thanks, Saulo!
I think we have enough hands that x/r with a better EV like the open enders T7, 87, 53 or the GS type hands that still have a higher ev than Q8 (T8, T7, 85, 52, 32). I think that its important to unblock broadway type hands in CO range on low boards like this one. x/r A4, A6 type hands is alright i think as it is nice to be able to make 2 pairs OTT creating some kind of setups vs AK, AQ, AJ that decided to float. Also kind of nice to be able to turn trips.
Hope Saulo won't find me offensive trying to help answering :)
We also have a range and nuts disadvantage which means we have to keep our x/r bluff frequencies in chk to not over bluff in this spot. We have about 7 combos of sets, 4 combos of 2 pairs for clear value only
Thanks for the response, gabuzzzz - definitely helpful. Especially the part about the nuts advantage. . . I had made the mistake of auto-piloting my analysis of the flop and just saw low cards and thought, "better for my range!" without actually thinking about what nuttish hands we could have there. Another lesson learned. Thanks!
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Great Video! Really like your style and your calm explainations
Thank you Kamator123
Could you answer questions 1 through 4 that I asked in your 200 Zoom: Theory applied?
I think they are fundamental questions that pertain to almost any single hand we play.
Hello RioZg
I won't be answering questions on/about previous videos. Time is a limited resource and run it once has thousands of videos so coaches are not expected to answer comments from old videos. I'm sure you can see how that makes sense.
I'm using an approach of answering all comments from my latest video within the week it was posted. So if you want your doubts to be answered, please make sure to post them within such time frame.
Support told me about your complaint and I believe they already gave a pretty good answer. I can't make an exception for you otherwise I would have to make one for everyone that felt as strongly as you about solving specific doubts, and then all of a sudden I would have to answer all question from all my previous videos. You can see how this is not sustainable.
If you watch this new video I'm sure you can think of many more things to ask so go ahead! :D
Hi Saulo
The support was very friendly, patient and understanding but they did not answer the questions for you. They merely acknowledged the validity of the questions and explained to an extent why you are not required to answer every single minutia from every question.
If it is a site-wide policy that questions past one week get no answer then commenting in the thread should be locked. If it is your policy then you should lock your own threads. It was not my experience up to this point.
But we'll play by your rules.
Question from this video (I am posting on 14th of October, i.e. on 2nd post-publishing day of you video, hence within a week's range):
Timeline from this video:
0:27 RFI 8Ts from CO for 3 BB
0:57 RFI 22 from UTG for 2.4 BB
12:06 RFI AQs from UTG for 2.4 BB
From that I drew the conclusion that you open smaller from early positions and larger from later.
Question that follows is:
REVERSE PREFLOP RFI SIZING
It seems you got it backwards from what everybody else is teaching. Big from early, small from late positions. Quick rationale is that by raising big in early positions you discourage loose calls by players who have position on you. You do not want J5s and K7offsuits of the world with significant equity vs. 44 on your back. You also want to build the pot with your premiums. From the late positions you steal as much as possible for as little as possible.
WHY DO YOU HAVE IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?
In the interest of time-saving which I am sure you can appreciate I allowed myself to copy and paste the question.
Hey. I don't think there is a strict policy in the site when it comes to an acceptable time frame for answering comments/questions. I think one week is a pretty reasonable amount of time, since most of the views will probably come within that span. I've told support about my approach and received no further complaints. That said, I agree with your argument, and I think Rio should implement locking threads after a certain period of time, since its misleading for the viewer who will expect replies to their questions when there is the option to ask. And when you browse Rio videos, you see that there are many of them with often many questions unanswered since videos can be quite old.
Lets now get to your question.
Yes thats correct.
This, however, is not. The vast majority of regs - probably more than 90% - open very small from early and middle position. It varies from player to player but very few open to a size bigger than 2.5x. I've also never seen personally a video producer advocate large sizings from such positions.
When it comes to late position, you are correct that most regs advise smaller sizes and thats what most regulars use. I don't think it ultimately makes a big difference to your winrate so it isn't something you should spend too much energy on, specially if you are not beating midstakes games yet for example. But I did some research over how population reacts preflop vs 2x, 2.5x and 3x and based on my study the 3x size performs better than the other sizings. It was a limited study, because for example if I had included other sizings such as 2.25x or 3.5x I might have concluded that one of them was best. But its very time consuming to do preflop work on solvers so I picked the 3 most frequent sizes for my study.
Whats most important is to open the correct range your sizing of choice, not necessarily the sizing itself, at least when it comes to EV. Also be aware of the fact that changing your preflop sizing will change your opponent's defense strategy. So for example if nowadays you open 2x and decide tomorrow to start opening 3x, you will have a pretty different postflop situation to play since your opponent's defense range will have changed a lot. So focus on studying your range for your sizing of choice and also OOP's defense range vs your specific size.
Thanks.
Hi Saulo, great video as always!
Can you tell me what is the option of statscaption 2street G 3street G you are using?
Thank you ikol
Those are the geometric sizings for 2 streets and 3 streets.
I use the HUD option in stars helper to calculate those sizings using a formula
Nice vid, saulo. Few questions:
1:15 Table 2: I haven´t study this type of boards (2 broadway +1 low card) EP vs BB. I use mainly a 1/3p. What do you think about using a polarized cbetting strategy instead of range betting since villain should have a tighter range here (compared to BTN vs BB) and less air in his range than on a really dry board like as example K43r?
5:40 Table 1: As already mentioned haven´t put much study into this spot. However, wouldn´t it make sense to polarize ourself here by checking a lot (including some overpairs which do not need protection like AA/KK) and when betting using a bigger sizing due to the fact that this board is very good for the BB?
11:00 Table 3: I know villain from the 100z pool. He is very nitty and uses a pretty polarized 3bing strategy (which you find quite often below 200z). What is your opinion by not 4bing monker ranges when having such a read? Reason beeing is that we are wasting hands like AJs, KQs, KJs, etc at decent freq. as 4bet bluffs when they have a lot of EV as a call vs ppl who 3bet polarized ranges and fold quite often vs 4bets. Imo hands like AQo, etc perform here better as an exploit.
15:20 Table 3: I am pretty sure that the solver prefers here to range bet. What´s the reason to use a polar bet size on the flop?
Appreciate your feedback!
Yes that makes sense. I would do that vs reasonable regs.
Yes, same as above. Thats how most likely the solver constructs the cbet range. However against recreation players I'm not going to try and play like solver most of the time.
Yes that would be a fine adjustment I think. Don't think you will ever see these types of strategies from regulars at 200nl+ tho.
Probably not that sure :D Solver will mix large bets and small bets here, with some checks as well. In most flop decisions I will just pick one sizing and build my strategy around it. Here I prefer using the larger sizing and polarizing my cbetting range because that leads to a more natural range construction on future streets, therefore allowing me to make fewer mistakes. That said, picking the small bet and cbetting at a high frequency is also totally fine from an EV perspective. Maybe you want to use both sizes as well! As long as you understand the range interactions on future streets, flop strategy won't matter too much.
Thanks for the response, Saulo. Regarding the last part of your answer:
Maybe you want to use both sizes as well! As long as you understand the range interactions on future streets, flop strategy won't matter too much.
Wouldn´t you say that the range interaction on future is a function of the flop strategy? What I mean by this is that a poor range construction on the flop would yield to a poor strategy on future streets. One example would be using 2 bet sizes and not having strong/medium strength hands in our small bet sizing. Vs recs I think it doesn´t matter and we can freestyle a bit more. However, vs stronger regulars I am more comfortable
currently just having one sizing on the flop and playing a simplified strategy.
Thanks!
Yes, thats the reason why I play only one sizing on the flop. Using more than that brings a very disproportionate return compared to the complexity + the amount of mistakes you can make.
Hey Saulo, very nice video format, great pace, great content...
29:25 min CO: T8dd in 3b pot vs. BTN
You have a massive range disadvantage on this K53dsd board and a small nuts advantage as BTN is not supposed to have all combos of 55 and 33s in his range.
CO range contains way too many medium strength hands like medium connectors, under pairs and suited Broadways and not enough enough clear value combos to be able to justify x/ring all out FD. T8dd works better as a call here. If we start raising this kind of FD, we end up with too many bluffing combos. Hands like A5dd, A4dd are a clear x/r, and its fine to include the nut type FD. Simply x/c ing the medium type FD seems like the best play here. Other bluff candidates that show a better EV are hands like 76dd or 54dd for obv reasons.
A x/r OTF strategy on these K high boards with 2 low cards with FD =>
1/ x/r nut flush draws with a decent frequency but not always to be able to have some nut flushes OTT and protect your x range.
2/ Choose FD combos that connect with the lower cards OTF and can turn SD or GS as well like 76dd, 54dd, 65dd
3/ x/c medium strength FD like T8dd
Let me know what your thoughts are please.
Again, your videos are very valuable to the community!
Thank you gabuzzzz
The approach you outlined above has some merits. For example, check raising 76dd 54dd 65dd much more often then say T high or J high flushdraws makes sense and it will happen in solver strategy. However I think overall it's too simplistic when it comes to trying to achive a pseudo-gto strategy. I think such range construction is totally fine in terms of simplification tho, and it will yield a pretty similar EV to a more balanced strategy.
At equillibrium most combos will be played as mixed strategies in the majority of the nodes. They are a product of 2 players maximally exploiting each other. When you start playing too many combos as pure strategies, your strategy will eventually become unbalanced and exploitable.
In this hand, you can see here that T8dd is a mixed strategy between raising and calling, which means that both have exactly the same EV vs a perfect opponent. That said, it is a low-ish frequency raise as I predcited in the video. If I XR more than that then for sure my range will become unbalanced towards bluffs. If you take a look at my RNG at the time of the decision, you will see it was showing 14.58. The way I use the RNG is as follows:
With that hand I have only 2 strategic options - call or raise.
Then I pick the number (lets call it X) from the RNG and ask myself: will this combo be played at least X% of the time as the most aggressive option? If I think the answer is yes, then I choose the most aggressive action. If not, then the most passive.
Back to the hand, I asked myself: will this hand get raised at least 14.58% of the time at equillibrium? And my answer was Yes, I thought XRaising that hand around 15-20% of the time would be totally fine. So I raised. You can see above that I was correct.
Also, keep in mind that most regs these days cbet their entire range for simplification on boards where their cbet frequency is naturally pretty high (as it is here). Against someone cbetting their entire range, T8dd check-raises much more often.
For more information on how to use RNG to randomize your play, watch this video from Sauce. Hope that helped!
36 min QQ hand:
I don't think that developing an overbet strategy on this wet board that does not favor any range makes sense here. CO has a slight rng advantage due to overpairs that BB is not supposed to have but thats about it. BB has all sets (less combos of TTs but still has some)... depends how he constructs his defending range. BB also has less top pair here but thats about it really. All sets are in both ranges. BB has slightly more 2 pairs type hands though. What I mean by that is that CO not having a rng or nuts adv should not allow him to have an effective overbet strategy here.
33% PSB CB seems the correct play here with close to 100% rng.
If we decide to overbet this Flop, hands like QJs and QTs are supposed to x/r us aggressively but here we block those which is a concern. We also block possible floats like KQ... It looks like this sizing helps BB play an easier strategy and responds well to our bet size.
OTT 3h: Clearly a better card for bb rng. QQ does not need as much protection as OTF. Our range should be played with a high frequency check. QQ or KK included.
Hey gabuzzzz
It seems like you have a very distorted view over how both ranges interact here on this board. Vs my 3x sizing preflop villain should not call T9o and should 3bet most of his 99 and TT. He also obviously has no overpairs. So I do have a signifcant equity and nut advantage on this board => IP Overpair+ OOP Overpair+ Equities
This is the cbet strategy for IP player. As you can see, only the overbet sizing is used, and 1/3 is never used. It doesn't make much sense to bet 1/3 on this board because it doesn't accomplish anything. Pretty much any hand in both players ranges have some equity on this board. We bet very large since we have a significant nut advatange and we are interested in denying equity to a lot of our opponent's good-equity hands, which will have to fold vs such a large bet, such as KJ, KQ, AQ, AJ, AXcc etc.
WRT the turn, you are correct that the 3h favors the OOP player. But that doesn't mean we should check QQ with a heart there. As you can see here, QhQx is a very high frequency bet on this turn.
I recommend you to take a look at these hands you feel strongly about before posting your thoughts here. Proving you wrong in the comments section is not a fun exercise neither for me or for you. Perhaps asking why I made such play when you perceive something else to be correct is a better approach then just saying this or that doesn't make sense, when you could actually be completely wrong.
Hello, have you ever tried playing on GGPoker instead of Pokerstars? Why do you prefer stars instead of other softs?
Hello ikol . I haven't yet tried GG but it is in my plans for the near future since I'm playing 500nl+ exclusively nowadays and 500z doesn't run 24/7. I prefer stars for many reasons. First and most important is that my winrate is pretty high there so I don't feel the need to hunt softer games. Other arguments are the great software, the great zoom action for my stakes and the opportunity to adjust to individual players very effectively. GG has the donwside of not providing HHs which is pretty bad. Other sites like bodog (which I occasionaly play) have the downside of being anonymous, which forces you to play vs population as whole.
never meant to criticize or bother you with my comments. My apology and good luck.
Nice video, I like your critical thoughts on each spot - helps me think about my game.
Thank you bobbito77 , glad you liked it.
Nice video as always. I have a general question and a few specific questions on the hands.
First, the general question: You don't seem to use a HUD or villain stats like VPIP/PFR. Instead you seem to rely on profiling players and then deducing their tendencies in a particular spot. Is this approach a function of Zoom player pool (which may be large, and thus you can't get enough sample size for stats to converge?). I play on a site which has regular tables and a smallish player pool, so I was wondering if this kind of thing might not be applicable to me since I can often get a decent sample size for stats. I do profile players and take notes on them, but I rely heavily on stats as well.
Now for the specific questions:
Around 22:00, the 3-bet hand with AK on the BTN. You elect to jam against a donk bet on the turn. Are you mostly doing this with value? Or are you overbluffing this spot, since your range should be pretty good and the donk bet seems kinda weak? What kind of bluffs would you choose? The obvious ones like FDs and broadways?
Around minute 31:00. The 3-bet hand with T8s.
Preflop, is T8s a standard defend for you with a 3x open and 3x 3-bet? I tend to mostly fold this hand.
Flop seems fine. Are you raising any kind of Kx here? IP I think there's very little raising in 3-bet pots as PFC when you're IP, but OOP I think there can be some amount of raising?
Turn, the 3 kind of doesn't interact too much with both of the ranges. But Villain could have A3s sometimes, while you don't ever really have a 3 in your range. So what kind of range are you representing when you barrel here?
I do use a HUD, I just don't show it in the videos.
AK hand - against recreational players Im gonna play hand vs range not range vs range. In other words, there is no concern about balancing. Shoving some combo draws there is probably fine.
T8s hand - yeah preflop is very close. Regs are 3betting a lot in those positions nowadays tho so calling is likely +EV. On the flop yeah definitely raising some Kx, mainly KQ and some KJ. On that turn I will check a lot and keep barreling some flush draws, KQ, 55 and 33.
Hey Saulo Ribeiro - Another excellent video! At 30:30 you defend the BB vs CO with Q8 of spades and the flop comes 6c4s9d. You check and villain cbets half pot and you fold. Obviously this is likely the most standard play, but I was wondering with SO many good turns for your hand if this could be a good combination to check-raise bluff flop? And if not, why not? Any turn consisting of a 5, 7, T, J or Spade makes for a good barrel, and a turned Q (or even 8) may be good vs his range. I am asking because it seems that I may definitely be over check-raising this type of board with this type of hand. Any Super Saiyan Saulo thoughts on this spot? Or has the elementary nature of my question simply made me look dumb? =P Thanks, Saulo!
Hello OMG,
I think we have enough hands that x/r with a better EV like the open enders T7, 87, 53 or the GS type hands that still have a higher ev than Q8 (T8, T7, 85, 52, 32). I think that its important to unblock broadway type hands in CO range on low boards like this one. x/r A4, A6 type hands is alright i think as it is nice to be able to make 2 pairs OTT creating some kind of setups vs AK, AQ, AJ that decided to float. Also kind of nice to be able to turn trips.
Hope Saulo won't find me offensive trying to help answering :)
Hope that helped.
We also have a range and nuts disadvantage which means we have to keep our x/r bluff frequencies in chk to not over bluff in this spot. We have about 7 combos of sets, 4 combos of 2 pairs for clear value only
Thanks for the response, gabuzzzz - definitely helpful. Especially the part about the nuts advantage. . . I had made the mistake of auto-piloting my analysis of the flop and just saw low cards and thought, "better for my range!" without actually thinking about what nuttish hands we could have there. Another lesson learned. Thanks!
Good content thank you
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