$200/$400 HU 5-Card PLO (part 2)

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$200/$400 HU 5-Card PLO (part 2)

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Phil Galfond

POSTED Feb 22, 2016

Phil concludes his 5-card PLO session, discussing the nuances specific to the extra card variant.

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John Bolton 9 years ago

Good stuff Phil.

At 10m with the 62955cc after x/c flop on Kc24cAc:
I'm not sure if you want a x/r range here at all, though given the "he always has outs" theme, it seems plausible. If so, I'm not sure you have a lot of Qc hands that have showdown value (vs. xb) on the Ac turn. I think you have some KQxxx that I don't think we want to check down | x/r and some AKQxx that are pretty ideal to check down | x/r.

Alright, I think I may have convinced myself that just using AKQcxx as your bluffs for a turn x/r is enough, especially since I don't think you c/c a ton of queen high flush draws on the flop, since you more or less need a king or a gutter? Am I right that QcJT8c6 just goes into the muck against a psb on the flop?

All of this is to say that it seems really uncommon for you to have either the nuts or the nut blocker here, particularly when villain is betting - if you have AKQcxx, that doesn't leave him a lot of combos of AA/KK/bettable flushes. So, I think it makes sense to consider turning some flushes into bluffs. I'm not sure that the J or Tc have any value as blockers here, since they'll restrict villain's Qcc combos much less than in 4 card, where suited danglers do more damage to hand values. Maybe removing Qc6c and Qc9c in the actual hand makes a turn bluff worth considering. Even if your AKQc combos are enough to balance your nut flushes, I think AKQc might be best as a x/c x/r at least some of the time, whereas low flushes certainly aren't.

kapkacak 9 years ago

please go back to regular plo, this is not a format that is played very often. thanks in advance. otherwise great video

A B 9 years ago

When you bluff the river with the AJT42 at 38:30, don't you think he will also have some straights in his range (checking back the turn to realize equity makes sense). Also I think you would like to checkraise most of the wraps on the flop. I understand that we are on the bottom of our range and he can't have much but I'm still not sure are we really underbluffing if we don't bluff with this hand?

Sean22 9 years ago

at 3:20 when you type in chat "you can never be too careful" it reminded me of when Tom Dwan said the same thing to you on poker after dark PLO. i think you folded your sb in a limped pot with antes :D

thanks for the video. i enjoyed it, although for selfish reasons i'd prefer 4c plo because american sites don't spread 5c :(

Jarcon 9 years ago

Bet-GII with dry nutstr8 (well u had 2x backdoors) on 765r feels bad.

I think you should have 98 there sometimes after checking back. "Dry" nutstr8 seems to be the one. Or if you would checkback there with 98 sometimes do u choose those with 0-1 backdoorFD's.

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