10:30ish AQhh, what do you think about leading very small on the river here? Do you have any experience of doing it? I've tried it a bit and you do get calls from 88 etc but idk if it induces all that many bluffs and it's annoying when they just call with AK :D
If I felt his range was a lot of mid pps then yes it would be a decent spot to lead small. However in this spot I feel hes got a lot more Ax that we can x/r, and obviously we get him to bluff any air he has by checking.
@21:50 I'd usually check this hand vs 3regs + fish, and if i would cbet it would be like 1/2pot. I think it has same FE vs regs, and vs fish if we get good runout we can stack him by the river anyway. Is my thinking wrong here?
On turn if fish only called would you check all rivers? If u check and he shoves river, u r folding?
I think checking otf would be a mistake given the strength of our hand vs what the fish might call with. I think my sizing is fine, and I would say we gain more FE from the regs as they will never play back to this sizing. Yes we can still get in stacks by the river by going half pot, but we commit him more by going bigger otf so we are more likely to gain a stack, so I prefer my sizing.
Given how how passive this fish is, I think we have to x/f the river as I dont ever expect him to bluff or v-bet worse. Though I might not fold a Q or A.
One question to the AdKh @35:44 ... what is your plan for the turn, if the reg overcalls otf ? I guess against a race it is a fold? Is there even any hand he should raise?
He shouldn't really have a raising range, but I guess he can have some draws or maybe some weak pps he didn't want to shove pre. If he calls the flop I'm still probably not going to find a fold button on a fair few runouts given how strong our hand is on that board and how shallow villain is and how capped his range is.
1st off, thanks for your video. Very helpful so far. Maybe a stupid question, however since only recently I started using stats, but when you talk about someone who has 22 & 16 (top left of player stats), what does this mean? I assume 22 is the percentage of VPP, but what does the 16 mean then? Anyone else also prolly knows the answer to this question, so feel free to give me a heads-up :)
the 22 stands for VPIP (Voluntarily put $$ in pot ) and tells you the percentage of the time a player either calls or raisespreflop. The 16 stands for PFR (Preflop Raise) and shows only the percentage of hands the player raises before the flop.
I'm going to watch this entire full ring series you have out here on RIO. I really like this video and think it's just top of the line quality in today's training site market. I have always liked the way the coaches on DC do hand history reviews but content like this here on RIO is just point blank on another level. I especially like how you review just a couple of tables side by side and focus on one hand at a time. It's so, so much better educationally than seeing a grinder load up 8 tables and talk through them in real time. Really glad people turned me onto this place.
Only thing I can add is that it would be greatly appreciated if you guys added a way to link our post to a point in the video's timeline. This would streamline the video comments noticeably and be pretty cool on top of that.
First hand with the flopped set but a flush draw on the board.
If the turn completed the flush, and your opponent barrels again, how likely are you to call it off if he bets say (half pot or 2/3, pot) given that you have about 10 outs to pair the board or get quads? I am finding myself in that situation where its hard to fold a flush even though i know there is a flush draw.
at 26:52 you say you are probably calling AQ but not AJ on the 7AK10dd board but what is really the difference between those 2 hands in that spot? aren't they basically the same?
Hi, maybe I'm little too late, but want to ask about 42:20 6c6s planning to X/R (bluffoff reg from pot and leaving with fish). You mentioned before, you leading all your value range when fish in pot, so when you want to X/R are you balanced here and have some value hands, or only weakish,semibluff? Because decent REG should know your tendencies to lead all your value here, and when you check you are faceup weak or mediocer hand?
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Nice video, enjoyed the format. Also, what's your light pink tag mean? ;)
Ha it just means reg that I have a note on.
10:30ish AQhh, what do you think about leading very small on the river here? Do you have any experience of doing it? I've tried it a bit and you do get calls from 88 etc but idk if it induces all that many bluffs and it's annoying when they just call with AK :D
If I felt his range was a lot of mid pps then yes it would be a decent spot to lead small. However in this spot I feel hes got a lot more Ax that we can x/r, and obviously we get him to bluff any air he has by checking.
O ye sound quality is great now, thank you!
@21:50 I'd usually check this hand vs 3regs + fish, and if i would cbet it would be like 1/2pot. I think it has same FE vs regs, and vs fish if we get good runout we can stack him by the river anyway. Is my thinking wrong here?
On turn if fish only called would you check all rivers? If u check and he shoves river, u r folding?
I think checking otf would be a mistake given the strength of our hand vs what the fish might call with. I think my sizing is fine, and I would say we gain more FE from the regs as they will never play back to this sizing. Yes we can still get in stacks by the river by going half pot, but we commit him more by going bigger otf so we are more likely to gain a stack, so I prefer my sizing.
Given how how passive this fish is, I think we have to x/f the river as I dont ever expect him to bluff or v-bet worse. Though I might not fold a Q or A.
I like your thought process and how you articulate it. Thanks :)
Hi Simon, really nice format. Like it a lot!
One question to the AdKh @35:44 ... what is your plan for the turn, if the reg overcalls otf ? I guess against a race it is a fold? Is there even any hand he should raise?
He shouldn't really have a raising range, but I guess he can have some draws or maybe some weak pps he didn't want to shove pre. If he calls the flop I'm still probably not going to find a fold button on a fair few runouts given how strong our hand is on that board and how shallow villain is and how capped his range is.
Thanks!
Really enjoyed this video. Detailed, concise, and excellent pacing. Keep up the good work! About to watch the others in the series!
Hi Simon,
1st off, thanks for your video. Very helpful so far.
Maybe a stupid question, however since only recently I started using stats, but when you talk about someone who has 22 & 16 (top left of player stats), what does this mean?
I assume 22 is the percentage of VPP, but what does the 16 mean then?
Anyone else also prolly knows the answer to this question, so feel free to give me a heads-up :)
Hi,
the 22 stands for VPIP (Voluntarily put $$ in pot ) and tells you the percentage of the time a player either calls or raises preflop. The 16 stands for PFR (Preflop Raise) and shows only the percentage of hands the player raises before the flop.
-Chris
Thanks Chris, I already thought so and I meant VPIP instead of VPP, little mixup with the stars bonus lol.
I'm going to watch this entire full ring series you have out here on RIO. I really like this video and think it's just top of the line quality in today's training site market. I have always liked the way the coaches on DC do hand history reviews but content like this here on RIO is just point blank on another level. I especially like how you review just a couple of tables side by side and focus on one hand at a time. It's so, so much better educationally than seeing a grinder load up 8 tables and talk through them in real time. Really glad people turned me onto this place.
Only thing I can add is that it would be greatly appreciated if you guys added a way to link our post to a point in the video's timeline. This would streamline the video comments noticeably and be pretty cool on top of that.
Hi Simon, really enjoying your videos!
First hand with the flopped set but a flush draw on the board.
If the turn completed the flush, and your opponent barrels again, how likely are you to call it off if he bets say (half pot or 2/3, pot) given that you have about 10 outs to pair the board or get quads? I am finding myself in that situation where its hard to fold a flush even though i know there is a flush draw.
Cheers!
at 26:52 you say you are probably calling AQ but not AJ on the 7AK10dd board but what is really the difference between those 2 hands in that spot? aren't they basically the same?
Hi, maybe I'm little too late, but want to ask about 42:20 6c6s planning to X/R (bluffoff reg from pot and leaving with fish). You mentioned before, you leading all your value range when fish in pot, so when you want to X/R are you balanced here and have some value hands, or only weakish,semibluff? Because decent REG should know your tendencies to lead all your value here, and when you check you are faceup weak or mediocer hand?
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