@4:00, regarding the split range on the river, which 7x are you mixing into your small sizing? When designing range splits in my own practice, I've always had trouble figuring out how to do this in any meaningful way, so it ends up being a lot of randomization and consulting pio.
I assume you mean 5x? In general I follow piosolvers frequently recommended structure of including the weaker 5x in the small sizing and the stronger ones in the large. This is an simplified but also an accurate description of our priority when we pick sizes imo.
@8:00 AJo - Would you use the same reasoning and bluff this hand on a blank river to balance KK and turned and rivered sets/twopairs? Or would you just bluff even lower parts of your range (A9s,ATsmaybe) due to having less value combos than on this particular Q river?
Yeah I think it's a debate on whether you want to remove your best guess at his top of range bluffcatchers (which is imprecise and involves some leveling), or if you want to remove the top end of hands that exist on this board texture. At equilibrium the latter is more important because villain can alter the line he takes with any hand but, fortunately, he cannot alter what hands make the nuts on a given runout.
Hey Kevin, thanks for the video :))
7min : 75o overbet for 150%pot. Our bluffs wont have good removal effects in this spot apart from maybe 8xdd and some 3x, so arent they running too much into calling hands for this size ? Or is this not a concern because you sized small flop+turn, so 5x are very rare ?
I think you're right on the 2nd part of your statement, trips+ is not a big enough % of ranges given the sizing so far to be concerned about this when bluffing.
22:55 trips gk discussion -- TT+ appears too thin for three streets of value with this sizing plan:
Overpairs can go three streets with a normal turn size of 70%. It doesn't even like 100 ott.
Out of curiosity I also ran textures 833r2f and 822r3f to see the difference and it will in fact take TT+ three streets with this size plan on those boards (NOTE I did not enter multiple sizes so it was not a size comparison on those boards).
Good analysis. I'd actually not finished analyzing these boards at the time of this video, and my more recent work agrees with your result - I'm now using 70% in these turn situations.
Hey kevin, around 33min you played a Qhigh flush by checking back twice and then folding river. I guess we check it back to have some flushes when we check back and Qx has some showdown?
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@4:00, regarding the split range on the river, which 7x are you mixing into your small sizing? When designing range splits in my own practice, I've always had trouble figuring out how to do this in any meaningful way, so it ends up being a lot of randomization and consulting pio.
I assume you mean 5x? In general I follow piosolvers frequently recommended structure of including the weaker 5x in the small sizing and the stronger ones in the large. This is an simplified but also an accurate description of our priority when we pick sizes imo.
Hey Kevin
4:59 why would A6 make such a good calling or 3betting hand otr? Isn't he kind of exclusively repping 7x?
thanks
Thought exactly the same when I watched it.
@8:00 AJo - Would you use the same reasoning and bluff this hand on a blank river to balance KK and turned and rivered sets/twopairs? Or would you just bluff even lower parts of your range (A9s,ATsmaybe) due to having less value combos than on this particular Q river?
Thanks, nice video!
bc it block 76 and AA which are V's autocalls. 7x too strong to bluff, EV of call is way higher.
Yeah I think it's a debate on whether you want to remove your best guess at his top of range bluffcatchers (which is imprecise and involves some leveling), or if you want to remove the top end of hands that exist on this board texture. At equilibrium the latter is more important because villain can alter the line he takes with any hand but, fortunately, he cannot alter what hands make the nuts on a given runout.
Nice video Kevin.
AJ @9mins well explained!
Think a lot of population is gonna try to take a sd but your reasoning for turning it into a bluff was convincing.
Hey Kevin, thanks for the video :))
7min : 75o overbet for 150%pot. Our bluffs wont have good removal effects in this spot apart from maybe 8xdd and some 3x, so arent they running too much into calling hands for this size ? Or is this not a concern because you sized small flop+turn, so 5x are very rare ?
I think you're right on the 2nd part of your statement, trips+ is not a big enough % of ranges given the sizing so far to be concerned about this when bluffing.
Hi Kevin, always enjoy your vids a lot.
22:55 trips gk discussion -- TT+ appears too thin for three streets of value with this sizing plan:
Overpairs can go three streets with a normal turn size of 70%. It doesn't even like 100 ott.
Out of curiosity I also ran textures 833r2f and 822r3f to see the difference and it will in fact take TT+ three streets with this size plan on those boards (NOTE I did not enter multiple sizes so it was not a size comparison on those boards).
Good analysis. I'd actually not finished analyzing these boards at the time of this video, and my more recent work agrees with your result - I'm now using 70% in these turn situations.
Hey kevin, around 33min you played a Qhigh flush by checking back twice and then folding river. I guess we check it back to have some flushes when we check back and Qx has some showdown?
Yep, that's exactly why
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