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2 Table $5/$10 6max Zoom NLHE

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Juan Copani

POSTED Jan 25, 2015

Juan discusses his play in the $1000 Zoom games and his strategies for navigating a tough player pool.

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snakewhite 10 years, 2 months ago

Nice videos. Around 55 you quickly fold AT, why don?t you consider 3 bet with this hand since it one of the best hands that fold preflop and has best blockers? How do you pick your bluff 4 bets here?

Juan Copani 10 years, 2 months ago

Its one of the best combos to 4bet with. You should analyze the value of calling 3bets with AJo to decide where are you gonna start 4bet bluffing hands in your range. I did find on my db that i loose money calling 3bets OOP with AJo, so if i consider that i cannot call with AJo, ill use that one as a 4bet, and since im 4betting some other AXs too, i dont want to make my 4bet bluff range just Acehigh.

churchcat 10 years, 2 months ago

Hey, nice video!
On 11:00 you donk AJ saying you are doing it for protection and vbetting since villain doesnt have so many Ax, so why are you doing same on 24:00 where there is no need for protection. Yea we have a better range equity, but BTN has better distribution of it. And are you doing those with whole range?

churchcat 10 years, 2 months ago

Thanks for answer, got one following question.
On this turns that you are donking, is it always same sizing of 1/4? What if turn was one even better for us , 6x lets say(maybe bad example because board is liekly to be cbeted by 6x, but hope you understand what i mean)

Juan Copani 10 years, 2 months ago

You have to think that you have hands in your range that wants to bet big, other wants to bet medium size, and other want to bet really small if you want to keep them as valuebets. The purpose of bet small its to set a betsize where all your differents hands of your whole range would be comfortable with. Would be a very large mistake bet 3rd pair for 0,75x pot for example.

Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 2 months ago

Hey Juan! Excellent video, bring more live footage.

8:46 left table. It is a super standard play to bet turn enough to set a river shove but on this particular runout what hands are you bluffing on the river ? I see this runout leading into a range asymmetry towards value when you probably have something near to 88/87s/65s and QhJh, JhTh, Th9h, Ts9s, Td9d which leads to 9 value combos and 5 bluffing combos. So, that may be the case to bet smaller ?

Thank you.

Juan Copani 10 years, 2 months ago

Id be valuebetting much thinner than that, and floating way more than just 4 combos.

But even if your example would be real. You are talking about a value:bluff ratio of 9:5, which is close to the 1:0,5 range construction that you would need to stay at balance betting pot.

Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 2 months ago

KTs+, KJo that you flat pre there ? Doesn't bet turn and shove river a bit thin those hands ?

I mean the floats after you call the 3bet. I don't see many hands that you can call profitably on K82r as floats so if you have information or data on that that would be great.

Nick Howard 10 years, 2 months ago

I found the 55 hand at 16min mark really interesting. i liked the turn check but when i saw you go for the XR i was like OH helllls no. on the surface i just think it makes very little sense to fastplay with a nutted combo here .. we dont want him bet-folding draws.

but then i started to look at it in terms of how our range functions OTT , and if we are playing a polarized flop XR i dont know if we can even construct a sensible XC range ott. If we x/c only boats and draws, he always checks back river w/ Tx on a brick, causing our boats to lose of value. we'd be forced to play a xc-lead range to get paid.. which might be ok, but the bigger problem is that when the draw hits our range likely polarizes poorly. so i think you are right by XR'ing but it just seems really weird and i'm wondering if it might be a smart reason to unpolarize the XR range (slightly). so that we can have shreds of Tx/8x/5x in our turn XC line, giving him incentive to expand his value range OTR.

Juan Copani 10 years, 2 months ago

He could even be bet/calling with some big flushdraws too. But besides that, i think that if you xcall you loose a lot of value from a very decent portion of his betting turn range (Tx), and those hands would be snapping you on the turn. And the kind of bluffing hands that you xraise on the flop, and improved on the turn to a bigger draw, dont want to xcall neither.

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 1 month ago

this is interesting discussion. the Ten seems to favor his range, so we want to do a decent amount of checking and some raising but a good amt of check folding also (he just is gunna have it a lot). We dont have many natural c/c hands that aren't nutted, so i guess check/jam is good with 55 and some draws but i feel like we have to c/f so often cuz like juan said, he cud bet/call a lot of draws like KQcc..... how can we find an optimal balance with our range? we dont have much Tx it seems so we have 88,55, T8s as nutted hands only and a bunch of like K9hh 98 and other draws

JohnnyMcCash 10 years, 2 months ago

The AQ hand (9mins) where you cbet into 2 players on TJ3r27, after getting called by the button, you decided to c/f the turn, wouldn't a firing a second barrel get him to fold all his Tx, AQ and maybe 89s hands making it a decent spot to fire again? When villian checks back the turn what do think of bluffing the river, again to fold out his Tx hands?

Juan Copani 10 years, 2 months ago

I think that you are not valuebetting enough hands on the turn to bet so many hands as a bluff, would put you on a very unbalanced situation.

Bluffing the river its an option, but it depends on how many value hands you are flop cbetting + xcalling turn with. And how would you play all of your KQo/Q9s for example.

superbad 10 years, 2 months ago

20:40 table 2 7h5h not that you have too many hands you want to valuebet this river with as played but what hands are you choosing to bluff this river with to balance your valuebets if not this one? I understand of course you would be overbluffing if you bet all your air here just curious how you approach this.

41:20 table 2 you 3b AA OOP bb vs bt from 20.70 to 82.50 then very next hand same table you 3b IP bt vs co with JJ from 20.70 to 85.85, not that this is a big deal or anything but just wondering why you size bigger here I thought it was pretty standard now to go bigger OOP than IP?

Juan Copani 10 years, 2 months ago
  • You dont need to balance your valuebetting range on spots where you think that your opponent is going to be overcalling your bets.

  • Position its important when you are going to pick a size for your 3bet range, true. But you should also consider how your general range construction is. In general, as more polarize is your range you should go bigger, and smaller when you construct more lineal ranges.

superbad 10 years, 2 months ago

Didn't know you thought he would be overcalling that spot (prob should have) makes perfect sense though given the ranges so that's obv a good explo adjustment. This is the first video of yours I've watched tbh so I didn't know how you constructed your 3b'ing ranges IP vs OOP makes sense now. I watch mostly plo videos cuz I play way more plo than nlhe these days but from comments of yours I've read in the forums I have a lot of respect for ur game. Thanks for the reply!

Ivan M 10 years, 2 months ago

30:00 table 1: Aren't you cbeting half pot+ your bluff range and Ax range? Your 1/4 pot size cbet won't just look exactly what you have? 88-KK?
Ty

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 1 month ago

great vid juan! at 37min, what do you think of ospiells turn call with a9s on jt3q? does he ever beat any of the bluffs in ur range? dont really get his call. seems u won't have like any worse hands

Markus 10 years, 1 month ago

@51:40 when perfumo xRaises J64r 3way you say that he has "plenty of valueraises", what hands do you think of?

Juan Copani 10 years, 1 month ago

Nowdays, i dont like my flop fold. Size is kind of big, thats the only thing that im worry about, but i think we should float one with the backdoor fd and str8 draw.

Remember that perfumo its a loose big blind defender, hands as 64o J6o are probably in his range, besides the obvious 44/66. And he´s the kind of player that could mix with some marginal value hands into his checkraise flop range.

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