In regards to the start of the video talking about Check raising, Now i understand the points u listed, But how do u proceed when say we miss our draw? For example Hand 2 with the J53 and have T8hh... lets say we check raise to $7-8...villain calls and the turn comes Ace of clubs... Do we check and give up? bet again? if we check, we are turning our hand face up aren't we and allowing villain to bluff us a good amount of the time? I find even at 50nl, some players will just Jam this hand if they miss their draw on the turn.
How are we defending against villain that is using a high X/R frequency VS our 1/3rd pot bets?
Another Great Video and look forward to the pro view series. Keep up the great work Iain
Hey - In response to question 1, we check raise a wide variety of hands on the flop in order to have the nuts/strong hands on a variety of possible run outs. We want to continue barelling the turn with hands that still have nut equity or which pick up equity, A low showdown value Flush draw is the sort of hand that would continue betting after XRing the flop.
In response to Q2 we defend against an aggressive XR strategy by basically defending alot. When you SIM these spots in PIO you often see pretty low fold frequencies vs the XR and the majority of the defense being by calling. In terms of what hands you generally want hands that have connected with the board in some way which are either strong now or can become strong by the river ( BDFD/BDSDs etc)
15:00 JJ would you call flop with a diamond then? Seems like most players 4betting ranges just have alot of Ax and he bets big. Can't we just call Ax+ and good draws otf?
17:30 KQ worst hand you would value bet otf? Do you think we should be checking QQ+ at some frequency?
26:15 JJ if btn is 3betting quite tight vs utg would you still cold 4bet TT? And versus the 5bet what's reasonable to shove/call? Assuming we have no reads on him.
thanks
JJ - I would still fold even with a diamond here vs such a large cbet size. Agree with your points on Ax in their range
KQ - Worst hand as a semi bluff is probably KQ here. Not bluffing with hands like AQ against this many players and potential whale in the pot.
JJ - I would not stack off with worse than QQ or AK preflop off the top of my head. Readless I might even fold QQ/AKo. dont see people 5bet bluffing ever here from experience.
Hi, when you are check raising BB vs BU with your strong top pairs (along with all other nutted hands), doesn't this leave your check calling severly capped and weak? Do you make sure you check call strong hands at a certain frequency to avoid that?
Hi, good question. Yes the check calling range is fairly capped and weak on CERTAIN turns however due to how wide the range is going to the turn we are protected on the majority of cards by hands that improve. On the flop its important to leverage the top part of our range against our opponents wide cbetting strategy in order to punish the weakest hands in that range.
Hey , not sure what hand you are discussing but we certainly defend flush draws extensively in poker due to their potential to make a very strong holding.
Loved the video Iain, would love to see some PioSolver videos where you go over some spots and talk about how to best utilize a program like PioSolver for studying
Hey
At 17:30 I wasn't asking about semibluffing hands, just wanted to know the worst hand you would value bet otf. And if you think we should ever check back QQ+ here.
Great video, first video I've seen from you and I want to tell you that I love the format you use for these videos; lesson then gameplay.
Just one quick question: the hand at the 38 minute mark in the replay with 6d5d.
You say at about 38:30 that you would overbet or bet big on turns that don't really help his range.
I was wondering what turns are there where his flop continuing range doesn't benefit from some turns?
Hey - So when we develop an overbetting range we are looking for situations where very few extra strong hands are put into villains range. for example on a 2 or 3 villain has very few hands that improve as I do not think the offsuit combinations of T3, K3 or K2 are in villains range preflop. This allows us to put alot of pressure on villains capped range and steal alot of EV
Hey,
In the spot at 7:03 (T8s) what is out check raise range for value gonna be like? Yeah we chk/raise draws at lower frequency but i dont see many strong hands in our range (we dont have any 2 pairs and im not sure we happy about putting KJ or QJ in there vs utg (polar?) range).
Thx in advance, and good video!
Mostly 55, 33 then small amounts of AJ. Hands like 64hh are also basically value raises as they are pushing so much equity. This is already quite a few combos!
Hey, love all your videos. Could you please make a video about your preflop strategy? I find interesting your 3 bet strategy and would love to hear about 4 bet and cold calling in different situations.
5bet shoving preflop is a balance between getting protection with your hand and also getting called by a worse hand. The issue with JJ is it is almost never called by a worse hand except flipping with AK. So the value to be had from protection is offset by our poor equity when called meaning the best option here is to continue by calling
For that JJ cold 4bet in the BB after a BU raise, isn't it better to flat there instead to realize equity against his fairly wide range?
If you're going to fold to a 5bet there, shouldn't you be using a hand not as strong as JJ (especially since it doesn't really block any value) if your intention is to fold to a 5bet?
What's your cold 4bet range in this spot looking like? JJ+, AK and some
Kx or Ax suited hands?
Do you think BU flats that cold 4bet often enough to make it profitable and chooses only to 5bet QQ+, AK?
hey, good vid.
32:54 - you said that villain doesn't has that much of Ax in his range why? he not betting with AxJh type of hands in your opinion?
(looks like board that we will see high % cbet include Ax hands)
hey Iain, in the second hand, wouldn't we be better off not having an x/r range? Our value range is so narrow (even AJ feels thin vs an UTG cbet of that size, especially after a 3x open pre; and we do not have any two pair or JJ here) so it feels like our x/r range will be face up/easy to play against here. and also wouldn't we often end up OTT with a range capped at KJ in a gross spot if we do have such a flop x/r strat (since opponent is likely to keep firing large after the initial large open/cbet)? Thanks
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In regards to the start of the video talking about Check raising, Now i understand the points u listed, But how do u proceed when say we miss our draw? For example Hand 2 with the J53 and have T8hh... lets say we check raise to $7-8...villain calls and the turn comes Ace of clubs... Do we check and give up? bet again? if we check, we are turning our hand face up aren't we and allowing villain to bluff us a good amount of the time? I find even at 50nl, some players will just Jam this hand if they miss their draw on the turn.
How are we defending against villain that is using a high X/R frequency VS our 1/3rd pot bets?
Another Great Video and look forward to the pro view series. Keep up the great work Iain
Hey - In response to question 1, we check raise a wide variety of hands on the flop in order to have the nuts/strong hands on a variety of possible run outs. We want to continue barelling the turn with hands that still have nut equity or which pick up equity, A low showdown value Flush draw is the sort of hand that would continue betting after XRing the flop.
In response to Q2 we defend against an aggressive XR strategy by basically defending alot. When you SIM these spots in PIO you often see pretty low fold frequencies vs the XR and the majority of the defense being by calling. In terms of what hands you generally want hands that have connected with the board in some way which are either strong now or can become strong by the river ( BDFD/BDSDs etc)
15:00 JJ would you call flop with a diamond then? Seems like most players 4betting ranges just have alot of Ax and he bets big. Can't we just call Ax+ and good draws otf?
17:30 KQ worst hand you would value bet otf? Do you think we should be checking QQ+ at some frequency?
26:15 JJ if btn is 3betting quite tight vs utg would you still cold 4bet TT? And versus the 5bet what's reasonable to shove/call? Assuming we have no reads on him.
thanks
JJ - I would still fold even with a diamond here vs such a large cbet size. Agree with your points on Ax in their range
KQ - Worst hand as a semi bluff is probably KQ here. Not bluffing with hands like AQ against this many players and potential whale in the pot.
JJ - I would not stack off with worse than QQ or AK preflop off the top of my head. Readless I might even fold QQ/AKo. dont see people 5bet bluffing ever here from experience.
Hi, when you are check raising BB vs BU with your strong top pairs (along with all other nutted hands), doesn't this leave your check calling severly capped and weak? Do you make sure you check call strong hands at a certain frequency to avoid that?
Great video, thanks!
^^ also interested in this.. Great comment
Hi, good question. Yes the check calling range is fairly capped and weak on CERTAIN turns however due to how wide the range is going to the turn we are protected on the majority of cards by hands that improve. On the flop its important to leverage the top part of our range against our opponents wide cbetting strategy in order to punish the weakest hands in that range.
So did I get this right, you call more often with flushdraws than gutshots when facing polar cbets?
Hey , not sure what hand you are discussing but we certainly defend flush draws extensively in poker due to their potential to make a very strong holding.
Loved the video Iain, would love to see some PioSolver videos where you go over some spots and talk about how to best utilize a program like PioSolver for studying
Thanks - I will definately be doing some of these in future.
Hey
At 17:30 I wasn't asking about semibluffing hands, just wanted to know the worst hand you would value bet otf. And if you think we should ever check back QQ+ here.
two pair plus I think
Great video, first video I've seen from you and I want to tell you that I love the format you use for these videos; lesson then gameplay.
Just one quick question: the hand at the 38 minute mark in the replay with 6d5d.
You say at about 38:30 that you would overbet or bet big on turns that don't really help his range.
I was wondering what turns are there where his flop continuing range doesn't benefit from some turns?
Thank you!
Hey - So when we develop an overbetting range we are looking for situations where very few extra strong hands are put into villains range. for example on a 2 or 3 villain has very few hands that improve as I do not think the offsuit combinations of T3, K3 or K2 are in villains range preflop. This allows us to put alot of pressure on villains capped range and steal alot of EV
Hey,
In the spot at 7:03 (T8s) what is out check raise range for value gonna be like? Yeah we chk/raise draws at lower frequency but i dont see many strong hands in our range (we dont have any 2 pairs and im not sure we happy about putting KJ or QJ in there vs utg (polar?) range).
Thx in advance, and good video!
Mostly 55, 33 then small amounts of AJ. Hands like 64hh are also basically value raises as they are pushing so much equity. This is already quite a few combos!
Really good vid! really like how you raise massive vs fish when they clearly will not fold, unfortunately their draw got there :(
Yes - Its very important to exploit player weakness' in the high rake environment of the micros.
Hey, love all your videos. Could you please make a video about your preflop strategy? I find interesting your 3 bet strategy and would love to hear about 4 bet and cold calling in different situations.
Hey - I have started a series on preflop 4-betting for essential members so stay tuned!
Anyone have this HUD for PT4?
Around 18:00 with (KQ) you fold to a 1/4 sizing, would you say it was an exploitative fold or this is standard?
I think exploitative. I'm folding as I think people do not raise draws super often 4 way on the flop.
JJ hand in the beginning of the session. Why not shove to a 4bet since, as you've mentioned, he is 4betting quite aggresively?
5bet shoving preflop is a balance between getting protection with your hand and also getting called by a worse hand. The issue with JJ is it is almost never called by a worse hand except flipping with AK. So the value to be had from protection is offset by our poor equity when called meaning the best option here is to continue by calling
For that JJ cold 4bet in the BB after a BU raise, isn't it better to flat there instead to realize equity against his fairly wide range?
If you're going to fold to a 5bet there, shouldn't you be using a hand not as strong as JJ (especially since it doesn't really block any value) if your intention is to fold to a 5bet?
What's your cold 4bet range in this spot looking like? JJ+, AK and some
Kx or Ax suited hands?
Do you think BU flats that cold 4bet often enough to make it profitable and chooses only to 5bet QQ+, AK?
hey, good vid.
32:54 - you said that villain doesn't has that much of Ax in his range why? he not betting with AxJh type of hands in your opinion?
(looks like board that we will see high % cbet include Ax hands)
Thanks in advance.
Awesome vid. Any way you could upload your HUD? Really like the setup.
hey Iain, in the second hand, wouldn't we be better off not having an x/r range? Our value range is so narrow (even AJ feels thin vs an UTG cbet of that size, especially after a 3x open pre; and we do not have any two pair or JJ here) so it feels like our x/r range will be face up/easy to play against here. and also wouldn't we often end up OTT with a range capped at KJ in a gross spot if we do have such a flop x/r strat (since opponent is likely to keep firing large after the initial large open/cbet)? Thanks
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