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2 Table $2.5/$5 6-Max Zoom NLHE (part 1)

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Raphael Cerpedes

POSTED Nov 29, 2013

Raphael casts a critical eye towards his own play at the Zoom tables, seeking to share and improve his process.

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kmyers1 11 years, 4 months ago

I think a reason for the small 4bet first hand of the vid is a ton of regs are just 3betting super polarized bvb, like you're obviously not taking a flop vs a 4b with 94s or K4o. You say you're clearly peeling J9s and 87s vs his 4b size but are they hands you're 3betting when I'd think most people just defend them?


Raphael Cerpedes 11 years, 4 months ago

I disagree that tons of regs are 3-betting as super polarized as you put it. Also that would be a large mistake since 3-betting only hands that you intend on 5-bet getting in along with complete trash hands is a pretty bad core strategy. We could talk for hours about which hands to choose to 3-bet or not but what is clear is that any 3-betting range, from any position, needs to contain a decent chunk of hands whose action facing a 4-bet will depend on the 4-bet sizing. If not, you open yourself to getting exploited by allowing your opponent to click it back 4-bet you.

DeSalle7 11 years, 4 months ago

I really like your fundamentals and good thinking processes. The JJ I think you have to call vs a fish, to good odds and fishes rarely play for stacks with like QT there, and maybe not even KQ with those sizes. The board is also paired which makes the setcombos unlikely, the diamond-flushdraw bricked, you have also shown weakness which makes fishes just barrelling through there more times than they should. To good odds.


At 30:00 in the video: Your K6 on AK247 with three diamonds on the flop, I think you have to call the river here. I find it kinda bad if he checks back the turn with hands like AT+, and he shouldn't have any Ax7d/Ax6d and so on (which I could see as candidates for checking back the turn if he could have them, but I think he mucks alot of raggedy Ax pre?).


If the flop had been rainbow and the same action happened, I would fold the river. Cause he probably has some Ax he then checks back the turn with, because he doesn't need to protect them as much and could maybe induce something from you on the river. And on a rainbow board he would most likely barrel the turn with JQ because he can get you off Kx on the turn and maybe Ax on the river. So on a rainbow board that riverspot is rarely a bluff from a reg, in my experience. (Which kinda makes it a good bluffspot haha, but if you catch someone doing it you have to check your Ax there sometimes to protect your Kx that doesn't wanna call, I guess.)

But with three diamonds on the flop and then checks back the absolute blank 2c on the turn, I don't buy it. He pretty much reps KxQd/KxJd and that's it (And you have a nice blocker to them). I feel regs gives up the turn with for example JsTs here cause their equity is poor and they don't wanna barrel three streets there cause they have better barreling hands and they are not sure which cards they wanna follow through on the river with, AND you could still be trapping a flush. When you check the river they will probably feel you often have some raggedy Kx and they try to levelling you into folding it because it would seem like a bad bluffspot in your eyes. AND, he is very very very capped.


Raphael Cerpedes 11 years, 4 months ago

The JJ I did calldown thinking more or less along your line.

With the K6 my main concern is that if Im calling that hand Im basically never folding to this river bet which feels wrong. But maybe thats correct just because your analysis is spot on and its unclear which hands are best off checking the turn and valuebetting that river, so that he should prolly have a very low betting frequency there.

I disagree that on a rainbow board "that riverspot is rarely a bluff from a reg". I expect decent regs to be capable of bluffing a fair amount in any spot where they can also be valuebetting a fair amount.

errrrahhhh 11 years, 4 months ago

Maybe try doing 4 tables for live videos?  That could help with more interesting spots.  And I'd mix in videos where you go over more interesting hands and fast forward through footage...

Raphael Cerpedes 11 years, 4 months ago

I've recorded part 2 of this session already but after that I may try to make a 4-tabling session review since there has been a couple of requests for it.

Maestrrro 11 years, 4 months ago

Good video Raph, I like it when u explain spots in such way that u also almost always tell us what would your reaction on villains action be.. ( like if he 3 bets I will...if player a raises flop I will...) Otherwise wp, not many tough spots though.

Matt Heap 11 years, 4 months ago

Fantastic video Raphael.  I’ve recently moved up from 100 FR zoom to 200 & 500 6M
zoom, and noticed the player pool in 500 zoom is fairly small and reg heavy;
therefore I’m assuming you’re more likely have strong reads on most players?  It would be great if you could touch a little
on the specific reads and notes you have on these players at some point and how these influence your decision making etc.  Certainly note taking is an area I need to
improve on :)

As for the overall content, I really enjoyed this video and
as mentioned above, 4 tabling would certainly fill some of the voids, although
it wasn’t too bad with two tables.  I agree with Dado’s comment about you explaining how you would react to a certain
play a villan may or may not make, this is something I wish more of the other
RIO pro’s did.



On a side note I’m surprised you don’t have stats such as
total steal, btn steal, 3b vs steal stats on your main HUD, as they vary
drastically and the basic VPIP/PFR/3b stats can be quite misleading.



Raphael Cerpedes 11 years, 4 months ago

Developing reads and taking notes doesn't vary much across stakes/game formats. I mainly take notes when I see hands going to showdown that arent super standard and also note exploitable leaks they might have based both on my experience with them and on HUD stats that are clearly suboptimal. I think when I make a read based play in a video I usually say so, even though obviously there will be some precise very opponent specific stuff that I will keep for myself every once in a while.

Alright, since I keep getting requests for a 4-tabling video thats what I will record next, after 2nd part of this video is released.

I explained this in a previous video, I prefer to have a very simple HUD since I tend play lots of tables with lots of overlap between them such that a complicated HUD would take way too much screen space. Anyways any time Im looking for specific number I just have to click on the HUD popup, very convenient. Total steal is useless though (same as most "total" stats), I'd much rather use positional stats.

Getready2rokk 11 years, 4 months ago

Verry nice vid! really like how you explain the hands, and also a bit about what your plan is with the hands, like i would c/c here vs a bet even if that dssnt happen. Also like the 2 tables zoom it covers enough hands and there wassnt much downtime so i dont know if 4 would be better.

1followu 11 years, 3 months ago

31:00

c/f river. i had this exact spot before called aswell. a regular wouldnt bluff into a range of ax + kx with a line that makes little sense.

oh he had air, fk this post then^^


Andrew Sweeney 11 years, 2 months ago

Nice video

1)You motioned when you had AQ SBvBB you like have a flop CR
range on dry boards i.e A72r, Q43r because it means we need to defend less. I
thought it was interesting because my standard is to CR OTT. Ive had a think
about this and im undecided on what I think is best (CRing OTF or OTT) I would
argue that when we CR OTT this still means we would need be able to defend at a
lower frequency at a later decision point. I think its debatable if CRing OTT
vs OTF means me need to defend less over all. I would also add the vast majority
of villains bluffs are going to need to see the river on dry flops to realize
there equity hence CRing OTT still means he cannot realize his equity with his
bluffs. The caveat to this being, if villain is betting OTF and checking back
his turned draws at a high frequency then I think CRing OTF becomes superior. I
would appreciate hearing your thoughts on this.







2) KJ HJvBO(fish/ recreational play) BJJ5ddh3h, we double
barrel and get raised OTT. You mention you like jamming over X/C and calling
OTR(or most rivers). What about X/C and DBing some rivers? I would start by
saying fish tend to R/F value hands a lot relative to regs. I.e he could have a
hand like 88 and be raising in his mind to ’see where he is at’ and ‘get some
protection’. I Think him having a hand such as JT(like you mentioned) that he
will check back on some flush rivers is also a decent possibility but we can
still DB/fold on flush rivers. With him thinking we have busted a busted draw
some% of the time, obviously not as much as on a brick. although I don’t think
we can expect to get as much value, We can get 
some value from his 88 and maybe even his Ahis, that think ‘we have a
busted draw’ when he DB. When the river is a brick we can bet larger and get
called by some hands that would of folded to a Turn jam some% of the time, i.e
88 some Ahi that he was bluffing with and now thinks we have a busted draw. Do
you think my assumption about him raising a hand like 88 here is reasonable
some% of the time?

Raphael Cerpedes 11 years, 2 months ago

regarding your 1): waiting for a drawy turn to x/r is a viable option too but you would, for sure, have to defend wider on flops in that case, and it makes it harder to have bluffs there. What you dont take into consideration is that alot of hands that he bluffs flop with, and would probably fold to a x/r, let say KQ, JT 98s type of stuff on A72r or AT KJ T8s stuff on Q43r, will many times hit a pair on the turn and check or decide to take a free card and hit river to beat the non top pair part of your x/c range.

2): bet calling turn and leading river is something I never do, and I dont think its good. I think here its important to make sure we stack his Jx 100% of the times and give him the opportunity to make a bad call with a FD too. I agree some weaker players will raise stuff like 88 there sometimes but I think there is a big chance that they call my turn shove if they do so. The main merit of just calling the turn would be to give him rope to bluff off his stack, but I dont think weak players take this line and bluffshove river all that often.

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