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$1/$2 Session Review

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Diego Ramirez

POSTED Apr 06, 2017

Fresh off his continuation betting series, Diego takes his talents to the tables and breaks down a mid-stakes session.

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M S 8 years ago

Really liked the session and comments - got a lot to think about!

19:00 you fold AQ since you put him on 88-JJ and dont have equity.
But, if he had like 78s (backdoor flush and open ended straight) is that also a fold?

Regarding the HUD; have you added stats over time or did you start out with that many stats on it (for a newbie like me its overwhelming)?

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

Yes, I think even if he still has a few suited combos it's still a fold, I still dont have enough equity if we add hands as the one you mention, we need him to put some overcards in his shoving range in order for us to call.

Regarding the HUD, have been adding them over time (mind needs some time to adjust!) but I finally got to something I ended up liking (about 1.5 years ago) and since then I haven't been changing it much.

Really glad you liked the vid!

rfedins 8 years ago

Very good content. Thanks for creating it.

@2:48 ATo 1st table
We c-r 52, if opponent now decides to call -- turn pot size will be 130$ and effective stack
225$. (SPR around 1.7).
What is our line if we improve to draw like flush draw/good gut shot? What sizing we choose if we bet again?

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

Usually in these spots Pio likes small sizings with our range with these kind of SPRs, about third pot. I don't think the SPR is a problem here, maybe 1.2-1.3 could lead to a little weird situations. I saw the hand again and I think our actual holding is fantastic for a check-raise bluff, and also that the preflop action is actually a fold, I have run more preflop sims since I recorded that session, and against a 3x from EP we play AJo and KQo and we fold ATo.

rfedins 8 years ago

Thanks for response.
Yes, i agree with c-r line. Was not sure how to process turn after doing it and getting called.

THEGRID 8 years ago

Hi. Would you mind giving a general overview of the 'pokerking' site you are playing on? haven't heard of it before. Looks really soft? Is it safe?

moolahbies 8 years ago

@40:30 is that a standard defend w/ 55 with backdoor hearts on Q83 board 1/3 pot?

@ 40:57. i'm curious why another defense with 55 1/3 pot when you no longer have a backdoor flush?

Thanks. Loved the video

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

@40.30 Yes, of course it is. He may be even value betting worse, so yes. No PIO needed here :)

@40.57: And again, yes. There are still some worse "value" and plenty of bluffs, I have way more equity than I need, and I can still steal the pot on the river if I strongly believe he has 8x type of hand :)

I thought it was a different hand I thought I had recorded against a reg who opens in MP I think and bets in a similar board, maybe it will come in a future video.

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

THEGRID: Hey there! Well it belongs to Winning network, where's good traffic in small and mid stakes.

I would say it's a little bit softer than other sites due to high rakeback, but my opinion usually changes over time due to variance hehe, and since so many regs play different sites these days, there's not really a huge difference. But if I had to say I would say it's a little bit softer than average.

Safe? Well, I think you can play from the US, so there might be a little concern there, but as far as I know it's a safe place.

moolahbies: I think this type of hands make it into our defend range, but let me check the hands with Pio tomorrow and I will come with a more detailed answer.
Really glad you liked the vid :)

fast-livin1 8 years ago

Hey Diego.

@around 39:00 minute mark. with your 710s and you are now contemplating a river bet. You said villain, who you've determined is a bluff-catcher, would call any sizing here. What about an overbet shove allin? What I personally tend to do against "bluffcatchers" is apply extreme pressure, instead of a more defensive approach. Not sure if it's the most optimal. I def. don't take enough exploitive lines, like your check-back here, which I thought was great.

Another question, what is your recommendation on REALLY improving your stat reads, and how to interpret them. For example, at 38:00 you were talking about how two specific stats correlate. Which was Won when saw flop, and won at showdown if im not mistaken? (Wwsf, w$sd) How did you come to realize this information? I use pt4, and I know im missing tons of profit not delving deep enough into my stat reads.

Thank you very much!

Also, the intro music is alright. My dad was a musician, and it gives me time to a take a huge bong hit. Cheers

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

Well, a lot to discuss here...

First of all, fishes don't care much about sizing and minimum defence frequencies for obvious reasons lol so I think it makes a lot of sense to go to valuetown very hard and value bet with the appropiate huge sizings in many spots where they have the obvious weak showdown hand.

Second, in this particular situation we're playing against a fish. We just play our hand accordingly to what we think is the best for it, without thinking twice about anything else. Against this particular fish I would:
Shove with my good 9x+ (K9-Q9+), and have zero bluffs
Bet "normal" with my good hands, mainly the rest of 9x, prob 3/4 pot. Again, zero bluffs
Bet small with my good 8x like A8 and K8 (removal effects here are very important, we expect him to bet twice and call us worse than K8 50% of the time, so sizing is extremely important), and bet small with our bluffs.

Now, a player who is a calling station means he bluffcatches with many if not all their bluffcatchers. Against such player there are a few deviations:
First and obvious, bluff less, if not bluff at 0%
Second, sizingwise, again we try to go very big, especially when they have the obvious range full of bluffcatchers and almost 0 nuts.

I think it is very easy to play against such players. When it gets difficult is against players who bluffcatch with some frequency but not always, and are smart enough to pick spots when we're likely to have many percieved bluffs, etc., but I think against calling stations the exploitative strategy is very obvious.

Finally, I would like to remark something you say:
"What I personally tend to do against "bluffcatchers" is apply extreme pressure, instead of a more defensive approach"

You are kind of mixing two different concepts. You say you apply extreme pressure, which is correct, but I think what you mean is you bet very big against a player who has a range full of bluffcatchers and zero nuts, and that again is correct. But you're mixing "heavily capped range" with player who "don't fold bluffcatchers". These are different concepts and while you play you should have very clear the distinction:

a) A calling station means he doesn't fold, therefore we don't bluff. Very simple.

b) A "heavily capped range" means a player who has check-raised or raised with his nuts earlier in the hand. He gets to the river with 0 nuts, then it is totall correct to bet huge with our value: it is extremely valuable to identify these spots where villain has almos 0 strong hands and size up correctly.

Hope that helps :)

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

A final add-on that came to my mind while I was going to answer the previous question about the 55 hand in the end of the video against the fish who leads, I think it is a hands that help to clarify these two concepts very well:

1-If we have a player who has a range full of weak hands (not necessarily bluffcatchers, just a lot of weak hands), like the fish who leads 3 streets on the Q83 flop (from 40') the right strategy is: to size up huge.

2-Now, should we bluff? Well, it depends. If we think he folds, we bluff, and if he doesn't fold, we don't bluff.

So to sum it up:

Range full of bluffcatchers==> Big sizing/verbet/jam
Does he fold his bluffcatchers===Yes, we bluff; no, we don't

I hope this two different concepts are well seeing.

Now, one last thing I'd like to add. Against fishes, I usually tend to attack very heavily this strategies. I tend to make them fold their junk, I try to go for it. And in my opinion, it's EV+ to try to do that against fishes we like to underbet the pot with all their weak hands, this is just an experience wise comment. Sure, sometimes we have a fish who is trapping, or a fish who found two pair+ on the way, etc. but in general they have one pair/air and they're folding. And it is extremely important against fishes who like to lead half-potish sizings all three streets.

fast-livin1 8 years ago

Wow, thank you very much. You went above and beyond with your explanation. I appreciate that.

Let me just make sure were are on the same page.

Basically, you are saying yes it is correct to apply pressure against capped ranges, (100% bluffcatchers, 0 nuts) But it is not correct to do so against someone who doesn't actually fold those bluffcatchers?

When I "apply extreme pressure" I mean over-betting only, I should have clarified that sorry.

If I over-bet vs. what I perceive to be a capped range and get called by a bluffcatch Im trying to target, I will take a note on that player that they have "station tendencies." Instead of bluffing alot less vs them or bluffing 0% like you mention, I will only bluff with a little less frequency.But I will expand my over-betting value range. So I keep them in an over-bet guessing game so to speak. Not sure if this is the right approach. I'm very aggro, and a big "herocall" type player. I know some regs have chosen a strat. to bluff me with a very low frequency. It is very +ev for them. Let's say I started using this 0% bluff strat against some players. How can I tell when they've adjusted to me?

Diego Ramirez 8 years ago

Against someone who doesn't fold bluffcatchers, the correct approach is overbet and no bluff.

Of course, if you bluff 0% against a player, you enter yourself in the "guessing game", and it's to you to guess if he is adjusting or not, that's why in general I would not not bluff against any opponent, just fishes of course. I would, of course, be very careful with the selection of bluffs I use against someone who is always looking for a reason to call me, and midstakes is a pool full of such players ^^

Rambi 7 years, 7 months ago

Diego great video i really enjoy the pio ones and now this, i don't mind that you play less then 100bb.
How ever most interesting/profitable is when we play versus fish so you cut the last hand and just said i will be raising very big the fish, would you mind answering here how much is that and at what frequency you expect to be called for example if you raise x3 Hes 10$ bet into raise 40$ from you and get called 6/10 times let's say.
But for example if you make it 30$ you will be called 8/10 etc so both doing the same profit, i tend to find the sweet spot as x4 or a bit over pot (110-130% range) do you mind to tell me exacly how much you raised/did you get called and how exacly you make the math how much to raise on such flops the fish,as you expect him to often call with just top pair.
Thanks alot in advance
(Tldr i raise between x3/4 depends on hud stats call river raise/wsd/pot to stack ratio) but never really any bigger unless the board is very wet and i have the complete nuts obvioulsy )

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