$10k SCOOP Main Event (part 2)
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Good content. Really liked the analysis on the bvb spot, is something that we don't have much content here at RiO in MTTs. Gl at WSOP.
Thanks Raphael, glad you enjoyed it.
NH mate @14 mins AKo. I paused and pondered before your analysis and felt like it was a fold. It's not a texture I would expect people to turn hands into bluffs like KQ etc so I was expecting to see 5x a lot, but nice call and and explanation, deffo a sick spot.
@18,43, I think this is a really interesting spot with KQs. Agree with the flat of course at that stack depth but at what effective stack do you think that it's a get in? The main thing being the structure with the 30 min levels, how does this factor influence your decisions with regards to stack off ranges. Ty sir.
Theres pretty much no stack depth I would fault a flat, all depends on how wide villain is opening. The 30 minute levels aren't a huge factor in my stack off range…it has more to do with how big of an edge I feel I have over the table.
enjoyed it. nice work
Thanks Zach!
Hi.
@ 3.30 K4s : you say there are no obvious x/r on that flop so we need to find some hands to x/r with. I don't understand why. If there are no obv x/r, why could not we just have no x/r range at all?
Hey, there are value hands we want to be x/r'ing so we have to find some bluffs to balance them with. I think by having no x/r range we make it too easy for our opponent to realise his equity and manage the pot size on a board he is probably over-cbetting.
Good question.
Hey Stephen,
First I want to say I love your thought process from the few videos I have watched, you have a concission of expression that makes your videos a joy to watch. Looking forward to more.
The k4s at 3:30, my initial reaction was the same as pierres here. We don't have any strong equity semi bluffs to balance our strong value with so I typically call my whole range here. On the same note, villain won't have many strong equity draws so we don't need to protect vs much and x/ring will fold out a lot of his potential double barrells, which we crush with our value. So I'm guessing you typically flat your strong value (set/top top/top two) most of the time and occasionally x/r? I generally play against players with far more rudimentary thought processes so, do you think it's important to have an x/r range on all flops vs good players as you get to high stakes? This is as dry as it gets, so if we have an x/r range here, we have one on pretty much every board, right?
In your average 50 freezeout vs a random, I just go for a massive exploit by x/ring these types of hands if I feel they cbet too much and flatting the top of our range. Vs someone good on a board this dry, I just call everything
Thinking out loud now, I guess by flatting everything, we allow a balanced villain to polarise on the turn by barreling off his air (to fold our weak showdown, of which there are lots) and value, while checking back his weak showdown value and his turned draw equity in order to realise it cheaply, which is what you were getting at...
Hmm, thoughts?
@ 7.12 AQo :
Why is not it better to take the lower variance route by just calling PF, letting him potentially cbet / represent the flops you 'll hit, floating a lot with your positional and equity advantage? Are you afraid of having to overfold postflop?
I think AQo is a fine hand to flat and 3bet with and I would do both with some frequency. They each have their pros and cons. I am not afraid of overfolding, if anything I don't fold enough.
8min
KQo vs short stack on AJx. Do you cbet/call vs shove?
35min
Q8s What's your plan for different river cards?
Hey smile, thanks for the questions.
KQo I would be folding to a shove…its such a better board for my range that I don't see him just piling it in with no equity when called.
Q8s I would bet K,Q,heart and sometimes T rivers and check the rest
Hello Stephen, i've played a lot of HU poker but I'm just learning MTTs now. Trying to familarise myself with p/f ranges.
At 37:05, HJ (20bb) raises and it's folded around to you in BB and you defend Q3s. I was surprised to see you defend so wide. I don't have any other examples written down, although it's something ill look out for, but you do seem to defend your BB pretty wide? Do you defend more/less with effective stacks decreasing, did you have some read on this Guy to defend so wide, and/or were the antes a big influence in you defending too? Do you apply the same logic to the SB?
Hi Zak, thanks for the question. I think this hand is a pretty easy defend getting 4.4:1 my defending range as stacks decrease widens as position becomes less of a hinderance and I will be able to realise more of the hands equity, though its more dependant on my opponents opening range. Antes play a huge part in how wide you can defend.
Okay, so the antes make the pot odds too good to fold :D thanks!
12:45 - BTN opens to 2.1 and you 3bet to 6.2 w/AKo, ~100bb deep w/antes. This is a spot I wonder about a lot as a primarily cash game player. The sizing is definitely pretty small as I think the smallest normal 3bet in a cash game at this depth with antes would have to be 7-8bbs. Why does your strategy change in tournaments vs cash game even against a good player with this sizing? Same question for min/miniRaising Pre in a full ring game early stages where many good/great players seem to raise too small vs what is GTO in a cash game whenever stacks are deep. Thanks for the great content.
Hey Caesar, glad you enjoyed it.
I guess I was trying to induce as many 4bets as possible but I agree that I should be making it a little bigger pre. Something to consider is that I would like to play smaller pots in general when I have a stack that can make the money a lot of the time, especially against the only player at the table that covers me. I definitely agree that min raising in the early stages of tournaments is suboptimal and many good regs make this mistake.
39:38 just seeing it again for a wcoop warm up. you said that he is representing basically AK/44 but I don't think he can have 44 since it is underpair to the flop and in a pairing K or pairing turn/river he will have 4 high and cant bluff that much against your strong perceived range.
At 19:00 what do you think about leading the flop? I feel like 268 will favour the blinds range more than the late position raisers range so I think it's OK to steal the initiative in these spots. With a SPR of 6 I'm fine with any line that gets this big of a draw in on the flop and would only go for a check-raise vs opponents that had a very high c-bet % over a decent sample size. I think that when the flop goes check check and you brick the turn you miss a good opportunity to apply allot of pressure while you still have very good equity.
Stephen, great video! Do you still plan to publish part 3? Look forward to it as you mentioned there are quite a few interesting spots there....
Hehe...nice opening sentence.
27:20 when you give him a range for not cbeting...you list K9.
Is it maybe better to have that in our cbetting range?
We do get value from worse 9s and by checking not many good things can happen for us...hes not likely to start bluffing on turn and if a 10,J or Q peel we sort of have to check it down(and loose a portion of the time).
Hi Stephen,
29:30 would you call a 3betshove with your KQo vs SB?
It seems ev+ with holdem ressources if he 3betshove 20%..
29:13
you say you openfold QTo BUTvsSB.
I run holdem ressources it says its a call.
Is it ok to suppose you open 50% and SB 3betshove 31%?
those are the numbers i used..
20:40 are u getting AK in against the opener 50bb deep ? If so, dont u think u would find a better spot ?
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