HI, Just signed up so my first video. Really enjoyed it. Took some notes so maybe lift my wr.
One thing, some explanation of some close folds would really be helpful. There were a couple of hands on the "other" table that looked like they could go each way that you elected to fold.
No need to chase back through this video but might be a good addition to future sessions.
Alright mate, welcome to RIO! Noted, live sessions can get a bit hectic but I'll bare that in mind for future.
If there are spots at any point you have questions about just make a note of the time and fire away in the comments, I should be able to give a more in-depth explanation.
Hope you continue to enjoy the vids!
thanks heaps. Really enjoying the everything on the site and have had a couple of really good sessions employing things i saw in the video (maybe variance but I'd like to think otherwise).
Hey man, thanks! Yeah I fancied change, partially for my own sake, just felt like playing a session! I guess it's more entertaining for some people to watch as well.
The vid quality is actually my fault...RIO have a really sick team of vid editors that touch everything up and make sure it's up to standard, but they can only work with what I send in. I think I exported this vid with incorrect settings after recording it, I'll make sure it's higher quality in future, need people to be able to see what I'm doing!
Decent video Jack. Good format and you seemed to keep pace with your explanations. Would really like to see some non-zoom videos as you mentioned you may be doing in the video.
4:45 table 2, QT95 on T-4-2 board.
I think this raise is too spewy. It would be fine HU and maybe 3-way, but villain bets into 4(!) opponents, he`s range is smth like t2+, a35+, t+:35+ (and possibly t+:a3+, 2+:35+), he probably is never folding and we have 32% against this range. Half pot bet indicates his range is probably leaned toward draws, so maybe we should call and play the turn IP? We can continue any diamond, T,Q,9,8,J (and sometimes K,5).
Are you calling, if he shoves flop?
Hey, I watched this back and I agree with you! If we were for example in the HJ in this hand, I think raising would make more sense; we get to clean up our equity and get to fold out some potentially better hands behind us. Our hand can get pretty awkward to play on future streets, particularly if we get other calls behind. As you say, he's lead into 4 players so for us to then raise it looks pretty credible. We also block a decent chunk of his value range with our 10. Your breakdown of his range looks pretty accurate though and as you say, its very unlikely he's lead folding. Being in position here is a big benefit for us, I think the better play would be to keep the small and just take it from there.
If he jams flop I'm folding, at best we're a slight dog to hands like he had and totally dry top 2, worst case we're pretty much dead and hoping to get extremely lucky with some backdoors!
Thanks for flagging that up.
Hey Jack, thanks for the vid. I had a few questions/spots I disagreed with:
- you make some tight button folds but i'm assuming it was cause you lost track: fast open fold QJ97ss, KJs9s3 and fold As2s56 vs an open and a flat. Are any of these actually std folds for you ?
16.30: I think you overestimate KKT2r, I usually fold that spot but I did some math to be sure and you have 44% equity vs top 10%, 39% vs top 7% and 33% vs top 5%. Your 3 way equity isnt great either: 29% vs top 35% and top 10%. I also feel like recreationnal players show up with fairly strong ranges with shallowish stacks in that spot.
31.20: we have 53% equity vs a 2-25% opening range on JT3r, would a ck/call be superior to a bet ? Def a spot I struggle a lot with since turns get so tricky that deep.
I was surprised to see how loose you opened BvB (JJ84r, Q662ss..). Do you open that loose in regular games ? Whats the tighest/loosest you'd say you open depending on the opponent in bb ?
Hey man, I appreciate questions like these! Helps me pinpoint things to look out for when I'm analysing my own game.
-Firstly, those folds do seem pretty tight, I'm never one to turn down decent pot odds, especially in position! They all seem like fairly playable hands, and given I don't really have much info. on too many of the opponents in this vid, I doubt there was a specific reason, so probably just auto piloting a bit whilst trying to talk.
-My BvB opening range will vary tons on who the opponent is, game dynamics, how deep we are etc. so I don't think I could accurately give you a percentage or something. I certainly think I should be playing tighter in general when playing zoom as people nit it up a bit in general, and if I'm splashing around, that tends to leave me bluffing into hands that are pretty strong. Obviously the flipside of this is that I'll get away with more steals but I think any competent reg in these games is defending pretty wide, especially if they know how loose I'm opening! Working on a limping strategy, throwing in some limp/3bets is a pretty cool option but not something I've worked a ton on at the moment.
-16:30, your math breakdown there kind of speaks for itself, it's a scenario I'm never going to be far ahead but can be pretty crushed so probably a bit spewy by me there, I think its a spot I can just make a somewhat disciplined fold. I wasn't really happy with it in game and should've trusted my gut a little more!
-31:20, watching this back I'm not sure why I bet, I really don't like it. This was recored quite some time ago so there's certainly some elements of my game I've developed, my play in 3bet pots oop being one of them! This board hits our range pretty well, but also our opponents given he opened in early pos., he has lots of sets/two pair, big wraps etc. The hands he's folding to my cbet we're doing pretty well against equity wise anyway. We have a pretty decent hand here to c/c with our blockers to some straights and a bdfd. Keeping the pot small allows us to realise our equity more effectively than betting I think. When we get called, there are very few turns we like, even when he bink top set. Therefore we end up capping our range against a decent opponent (given that our opponent is a Supernova and has one of the 1million FPP tags I presume this person has put in some decent volume!). Getting c/raised with our hand sucks as I think we pretty much always have to fold and can be being blown off a decent chunk of equity. So our life can be made pretty tough in situations like this, therefore I think it's best to not bloat the pot OOP with a mediocre hand, as is the case with lots of hands in PLO!
Hi Jack. I enjoy your videos and your style of explanation. I think that the fact you don't use a HUD and are playing against players who you don't know well is actually great for video making. I am grinding 10 and 25 PL and find that I really want to know about readless situations a whole lot because of the fluid nature player pool. I do use a HUD myself but when you have only 50 hands on an opponent or whatever it may give you a vague idea of their preflop ranges but almost nothing about whether they barrel aggressively or not on the turn. So I find these "vanilla" approaches to certain spots really useful.
At 28:12 you fold QJ97 suited to the queen in an unopened pot from the button. Seems you were just distracted by your hand history review right? For me that hand is maybe a somewhat marginal cutoff open but a slam dunk to raise when it folds to your button.
Hey, sorry for taking so long to reply, I must've missed this message somehow! How's the grind going at those stakes? As I've said in some previous videos, in those player pools I don't think the average player is worried about being balanced and that kind of thing so stats become a bit irrelevant at times. Given how volatile some of these opponents can be playing, I think taking a lot of notes, looking back at some hand history's that some of the weaker players are involved in, and punishing the bad LAGs in the field is the way to go. I've found that a lot of people new to the game/those that just feel like a punt can be found in the lower Zoom pools, a lot of people don't really know what they're doing, I played some weird hands in those games...I often found that I was owning myself, giving other people too much credit, than the other way round!
But yeah, in general I feel that by not running a HUD, I'm putting myself at a bit of a disadvantage, especially in Zoom games. Other people are using them so I might as well! On the flipside of that though, I found using stats in-game to be really distracting. It will obviously take practice and the more accustomed to it you get, the easier it gets I guess. I also didn't find it as fun to play though, and if I'm having fun playing to a large degree, I don't really see the point. I do spend time looking back through stats after sessions though and looking at what people are doing; I find that I'm able to remember that quite well and apply it in future situations. Having some sort of database is well worth the money, PT4 is only like 4 buy-ins at 25 ;)
As for that fold, I totally agree with you, super standard open from the button (I would likely be opening the vast majority of my hands in this situation!), I guess I just wasn't concentrating.
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HI, Just signed up so my first video. Really enjoyed it. Took some notes so maybe lift my wr.
One thing, some explanation of some close folds would really be helpful. There were a couple of hands on the "other" table that looked like they could go each way that you elected to fold.
No need to chase back through this video but might be a good addition to future sessions.
Thanks heaps!
Mike
Alright mate, welcome to RIO! Noted, live sessions can get a bit hectic but I'll bare that in mind for future.
If there are spots at any point you have questions about just make a note of the time and fire away in the comments, I should be able to give a more in-depth explanation.
Hope you continue to enjoy the vids!
thanks heaps. Really enjoying the everything on the site and have had a couple of really good sessions employing things i saw in the video (maybe variance but I'd like to think otherwise).
It's definitely the coaching ;)
Nice video and refreshing with a 6m zoom live session ;)
I wished the video quality could be better though :)
Hey man, thanks! Yeah I fancied change, partially for my own sake, just felt like playing a session! I guess it's more entertaining for some people to watch as well.
The vid quality is actually my fault...RIO have a really sick team of vid editors that touch everything up and make sure it's up to standard, but they can only work with what I send in. I think I exported this vid with incorrect settings after recording it, I'll make sure it's higher quality in future, need people to be able to see what I'm doing!
Decent video Jack. Good format and you seemed to keep pace with your explanations. Would really like to see some non-zoom videos as you mentioned you may be doing in the video.
Cheers mate, some of that format should be coming shortly
I'm new here and this video has been very helpful. Thank you!
Seems like a lot of new people are signing up and watching the vids, glad you enjoyed!
4:45 table 2, QT95 on T-4-2 board.
I think this raise is too spewy. It would be fine HU and maybe 3-way, but villain bets into 4(!) opponents, he`s range is smth like t2+, a35+, t+:35+ (and possibly t+:a3+, 2+:35+), he probably is never folding and we have 32% against this range. Half pot bet indicates his range is probably leaned toward draws, so maybe we should call and play the turn IP? We can continue any diamond, T,Q,9,8,J (and sometimes K,5).
Are you calling, if he shoves flop?
Hey, I watched this back and I agree with you! If we were for example in the HJ in this hand, I think raising would make more sense; we get to clean up our equity and get to fold out some potentially better hands behind us. Our hand can get pretty awkward to play on future streets, particularly if we get other calls behind. As you say, he's lead into 4 players so for us to then raise it looks pretty credible. We also block a decent chunk of his value range with our 10. Your breakdown of his range looks pretty accurate though and as you say, its very unlikely he's lead folding. Being in position here is a big benefit for us, I think the better play would be to keep the small and just take it from there.
If he jams flop I'm folding, at best we're a slight dog to hands like he had and totally dry top 2, worst case we're pretty much dead and hoping to get extremely lucky with some backdoors!
Thanks for flagging that up.
Hey Jack, thanks for the vid. I had a few questions/spots I disagreed with:
- you make some tight button folds but i'm assuming it was cause you lost track: fast open fold QJ97ss, KJs9s3 and fold As2s56 vs an open and a flat. Are any of these actually std folds for you ?
16.30: I think you overestimate KKT2r, I usually fold that spot but I did some math to be sure and you have 44% equity vs top 10%, 39% vs top 7% and 33% vs top 5%. Your 3 way equity isnt great either: 29% vs top 35% and top 10%. I also feel like recreationnal players show up with fairly strong ranges with shallowish stacks in that spot.
31.20: we have 53% equity vs a 2-25% opening range on JT3r, would a ck/call be superior to a bet ? Def a spot I struggle a lot with since turns get so tricky that deep.
I was surprised to see how loose you opened BvB (JJ84r, Q662ss..). Do you open that loose in regular games ? Whats the tighest/loosest you'd say you open depending on the opponent in bb ?
Hey man, I appreciate questions like these! Helps me pinpoint things to look out for when I'm analysing my own game.
-Firstly, those folds do seem pretty tight, I'm never one to turn down decent pot odds, especially in position! They all seem like fairly playable hands, and given I don't really have much info. on too many of the opponents in this vid, I doubt there was a specific reason, so probably just auto piloting a bit whilst trying to talk.
-My BvB opening range will vary tons on who the opponent is, game dynamics, how deep we are etc. so I don't think I could accurately give you a percentage or something. I certainly think I should be playing tighter in general when playing zoom as people nit it up a bit in general, and if I'm splashing around, that tends to leave me bluffing into hands that are pretty strong. Obviously the flipside of this is that I'll get away with more steals but I think any competent reg in these games is defending pretty wide, especially if they know how loose I'm opening! Working on a limping strategy, throwing in some limp/3bets is a pretty cool option but not something I've worked a ton on at the moment.
-16:30, your math breakdown there kind of speaks for itself, it's a scenario I'm never going to be far ahead but can be pretty crushed so probably a bit spewy by me there, I think its a spot I can just make a somewhat disciplined fold. I wasn't really happy with it in game and should've trusted my gut a little more!
-31:20, watching this back I'm not sure why I bet, I really don't like it. This was recored quite some time ago so there's certainly some elements of my game I've developed, my play in 3bet pots oop being one of them! This board hits our range pretty well, but also our opponents given he opened in early pos., he has lots of sets/two pair, big wraps etc. The hands he's folding to my cbet we're doing pretty well against equity wise anyway. We have a pretty decent hand here to c/c with our blockers to some straights and a bdfd. Keeping the pot small allows us to realise our equity more effectively than betting I think. When we get called, there are very few turns we like, even when he bink top set. Therefore we end up capping our range against a decent opponent (given that our opponent is a Supernova and has one of the 1million FPP tags I presume this person has put in some decent volume!). Getting c/raised with our hand sucks as I think we pretty much always have to fold and can be being blown off a decent chunk of equity. So our life can be made pretty tough in situations like this, therefore I think it's best to not bloat the pot OOP with a mediocre hand, as is the case with lots of hands in PLO!
nice vid sir
Hi Jack. I enjoy your videos and your style of explanation. I think that the fact you don't use a HUD and are playing against players who you don't know well is actually great for video making. I am grinding 10 and 25 PL and find that I really want to know about readless situations a whole lot because of the fluid nature player pool. I do use a HUD myself but when you have only 50 hands on an opponent or whatever it may give you a vague idea of their preflop ranges but almost nothing about whether they barrel aggressively or not on the turn. So I find these "vanilla" approaches to certain spots really useful.
At 28:12 you fold QJ97 suited to the queen in an unopened pot from the button. Seems you were just distracted by your hand history review right? For me that hand is maybe a somewhat marginal cutoff open but a slam dunk to raise when it folds to your button.
Hey, sorry for taking so long to reply, I must've missed this message somehow! How's the grind going at those stakes? As I've said in some previous videos, in those player pools I don't think the average player is worried about being balanced and that kind of thing so stats become a bit irrelevant at times. Given how volatile some of these opponents can be playing, I think taking a lot of notes, looking back at some hand history's that some of the weaker players are involved in, and punishing the bad LAGs in the field is the way to go. I've found that a lot of people new to the game/those that just feel like a punt can be found in the lower Zoom pools, a lot of people don't really know what they're doing, I played some weird hands in those games...I often found that I was owning myself, giving other people too much credit, than the other way round!
But yeah, in general I feel that by not running a HUD, I'm putting myself at a bit of a disadvantage, especially in Zoom games. Other people are using them so I might as well! On the flipside of that though, I found using stats in-game to be really distracting. It will obviously take practice and the more accustomed to it you get, the easier it gets I guess. I also didn't find it as fun to play though, and if I'm having fun playing to a large degree, I don't really see the point. I do spend time looking back through stats after sessions though and looking at what people are doing; I find that I'm able to remember that quite well and apply it in future situations. Having some sort of database is well worth the money, PT4 is only like 4 buy-ins at 25 ;)
As for that fold, I totally agree with you, super standard open from the button (I would likely be opening the vast majority of my hands in this situation!), I guess I just wasn't concentrating.
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