Turned boat in 3b pot facing action
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Turned boat in 3b pot facing action
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (5 Players)
CO: $242.32 (Hero)
BN: $527.44
SB: $110.57
BB: $100.00
UTG: $469.41
BN: $527.44
SB: $110.57
BB: $100.00
UTG: $469.41
Preflop
($1.50)
Hero is CO with
A
4
3
4
, , , ,
Flop
($15.50)
7
7
K
, ,
Turn
($15.50)
7
7
K
4
, ,
Vill is a loose fish pre over a few hands already, but no post flop reads. Casual player.
UTG is a soft reg. He is somewhat loose, sticky, but non tricky.
Do we prefer a raise-fold (shut down) on turn to standard line of just flatting? He potted turn, which made me think ~33-fold is preferred to calling 14 then 50.
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What range would you give SB? I gave him the PJ range $3b15o !aa but that seems too tight. I like raising for value on the turn and maybe going for a second street against SB on most rivers.
No one is afraid of slow played KK?
I don't play your stakes but here is my take fwiw:
If UTG is soft I think we can exclude a 7 from his check back range and so he then polarizes his range to KKxx and AAxx, or worse 1 pair hands. So his river play should be pretty straight forward, folding most of his range to another bet from the SB, especially with deep stack caller behind and I would expect him to raise KKxx since he's not tricky enough to flat it (best line imo).
Our best bet is to flat the turn bet and wait for the river action, potentially saving more money when we are crushed then by raising the turn. If it goes bet raise it is an easy fold.
When the UTG does fold, we still have all our options against the SB. If he checks we could consider betting against trips. If we get check raised on the river we fold (best line for SB imo). We have to give him a wider range since we think he is fishy, so if he bets the river I think we have to consider calling. We don't really want to raise fold, I don't think, to a random who might just rip in A7xx etc.
Another downside to the kind of stop raise, even if we exclude the UTG, is that our options on the river are really to hope for a check and check back. If he bets, we fold, if he checks we don't want to bet. If we were raising with the intention of betting rivers if he flats the turn I think it's good if we know he is never folding a 7.
One up side of the raise on the turn is for value against trips, but stacks will get awkward on the river with the SB having close to a pot size bet left.
Yeah so I flat the turn, and call if the SB bets and the UTG fold, fold if it goes bet raise and bet if checked to.
Excellent post nassander. Just wanna emphasize that vbetting river if we raise turn is really ambitious unless we know the fish never folds trips river, sometimes calls with Kx+ and ideally would fast play his better hands ott
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