Turn play, my standard line..

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Turn play, my standard line..

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10, $0.02 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players

Poker Tools by CardRunners - Hand Details



BTN: $18.34 (183.4 bb)

SB: $18.66 (186.6 bb)

Hero (BB): $54.25 (542.5 bb)

UTG: $41.50 (415 bb)

MP: $23.61 (236.1 bb)

CO: $10 (100 bb)



Preflop: Hero is BB with A A K 8

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.87, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.37



Flop: ($4.11) 6 J T (2 players)

Hero bets $2.90, BTN calls $2.90



Turn: ($9.91) T (2 players)

Hero bets $4.60, BTN raises to $13.55 and is all-in, Hero folds




Hi guys! Flop I cbet, I think its ok, but could have check called, but i dont like cc ing . :D turn it is really sucky:
checking, and then what? : we give free cards to draws, and potentially get bluffed out.
betting: then he often has us beat with JT or KQT type hand. I chose to BF but backwards, I might have been better by calling it off. Thoughts on this line and thought process?

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Gambling_Poet 9 years ago

Once again some stats/reads on villain would be nice :-).

This seemed like a pretty good spot to barrel for me since he will often fold his draws and if you bet a bit bigger like 6$ it will put him in a spot where he will be playing for his stack and you can still fold to a raise. However, I looked at it in PJ and I would give up on the flop and as played on the turn as well.

Preflop:
Since he raises over 2 limpers I would assume a rather tight range, maybe like 15% RFI and then exclude AA since he doesnt 4bet.

Flop:
On the Flop he will have 40% EQ, I think he raises any set pretty much 100% of the time and calls with JT+,89+,KQ9+,AQ89+,T+:87+ and exluding 66+,KQ98+,AKQJ. He might call with those wraps sometimes or even raise worse, so I just put in a few to balance it. This means that overall he continues 72% of the time, meaning we need to make some +EV turn moves to make up for it. Maybe giving up right here wouldnt be that bad, a Jtx flop just smacks a strong preflop range that doesnt include AA, and all we have is a GSD and backdoorflushdraw.

Turn:

Im assuming that we are rarely getting called and he will either fold or get it in.
He has T+ 32% of the time, if you change his preflop range to RFI25% it only drops to 31%. If you bet 6 in 9,79 you need
x * 9,79 – (1-x) -6 =0
x=38%.

So what else does he have to call on the turn? If he continues with T+,KQJ9+,Q98+ he is at 40%. Now there is the question of how much we make up for it if we bet the turn, villain just calls and we actually win the hand, but it seems pretty damn hard to answer :-).

So I guess I just give up on the flop. We do not have much FEQ here and our implied are pretty low as well, since he wont pay if we hit our A. And a T on the turn is even one of the better turncard, if it is a 5h for example he will not fold his wraps (I assume).

Ephedrine10 9 years ago

But giving up on the flop with Overpair+ Nutgutter+ BDFD on a rainbow board is so damn weak , its not even funny :D

Disharmonist 9 years ago

Betting doesnst accomplish much OTT, besides folding out his straight draws which you already block.

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