Trouble vs a certain HUPLO villain type
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Trouble vs a certain HUPLO villain type
I seem to run into consistent trouble adjusting to super loose villain who calls and stabs a lot. They* do it rationally, though, thus exploiting some leak in my game. (they* = the ones who are not only loose but also stab immediately when I check somewhere.)
What is this leak and how should I adjust?
The way it goes:
He folds very little oop preflop, maybe only 10-15%.
He also folds to flop cbets little, say 20%.
This is where the problem starts. When I fire turn cbet they can still call, and seems like they have a marginal made hand or they have a non-nut bad draw. The thing is, they mix the river play donk potting or betting smaller for value and check-calling if they end up with a decent bluff catcher. It's not that frequent for a hero to have a value hand that can stand money going in on all 3 streets.
If I don't cbet on the flop they stab every single turn. If I don't cbet the turn they usually but not always stab the river.
So how do I adjust? Especially with my decent hands that are not worth 3 streets. Should I check some flops planning to raise turns? Check turns planning to call rivers? 3-barrel more? How about my air? Check flop or turn and give it to them? Feeling a bit frustrated here since I thought we should own these guys when we have position, but with clever betting they seem to try to steal every possible hand when I miss a bet.
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As for your idea of checking flops to raise turns, don't do that. If he's gonna call/call, you should bet/bet and make sure that money gets in. The hands you should be checking back are ones which aren't doing very well but might turn something you can raise (naked 6-nut out open-ender on a two tone board or a gutter + double backdoor flushdraw).
Another important consideration is to play a strong range of hands preflop. If you can't get folds, simply start out with cards which often don't want them.
However, I still assume the general concepts I outlined (ie bluff a station less and value-bet him more) are kinda valid. I certainly wouldn't make not bluffing an absolute though 'cas you simply can't give him every pot you miss (both 'cas you'll be giving up too much and 'cas he'll probs notice and pay off less). Adjusting your frequencies to ensure you hold good hands more often when you value-bet though will definitely help you if he doesn't adjust. As, I assume, would dumping the total trash hands preflop (although perhaps that's awful given position's value...).
What I do is tighten up my raising pre to like idk 70%-75%, be extra weary of betting once and giving up. I bet either when its quite dry and they just can t continue enough, or I have a decent piece and often barrel the turn. Obv go for really thin value and merge a lot I think especially if they arent c/r the turn aggressively
1)Playing a very weak/wide range OOP(85-90%).
2) Floats a lot, focuses on realizing his equity.
3) Leads most of his range when prior street goes ch/ch.
My generally strategy would be something like this:
a) Open something like 75% of buttons, limp the other 25%, and take lines that put his range in the toughest spots. b) Protect my check back range with some value hands, and just raise a lot of turns after checking flop back in general. Vs a 90% range, he's just going to have nothing so often that you should show immediate profits raising turns. c) barrel frequently for value or hands w/ decent equity(and subsequently, increase your c-bet sizing relative to the pot since your range is less air-y). Tone down the amount of money you put in post with total air. Only do it on textures that are tough for him to hit, or that are stronger for our range than his. Focus more on extracting 2-3 streets of value with hands that traditionally don't look strong enough from an absolute value sense(assuming he's not ch/ring a lot of turns and rivers w/ a good range), d) Figure out his river lead, ch/r, ch/ca strategy, e) Don't tilt(obviously).
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