trips OOP. 3b pot.+river decision
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trips OOP. 3b pot.+river decision
BB: $25
HJ: $68.58 (Hero)
CO: $58.21
BN: $50
SB: $17.10
HJ: $68.58 (Hero)
CO: $58.21
BN: $50
SB: $17.10
Preflop
($0.75)
(5 Players)
Hero was dealt
9
K
A
4
Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BN raises to $5.25, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $3.75
Hero raises to $1.50, CO folds, BN raises to $5.25, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $3.75
Flop
($11.25)
2
4
8
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
BN checks
Turn
($11.25)
2
4
8
4
(2 Players)
Hero bets $6.75,
BN calls $6.75
River
($24.75)
2
4
8
4
6
(2 Players)
Hero bets $14
BTN seems like a ok reg. 21\16, 3bet BTN 8.7%, 3b BU vs MP 7% vs UTG 9%. wtsd 26 5k+ hands
I dont like my open here, only excuse is blinds are bad\loose-passive. calling vs 3b is also questionable.
would you go for river vbet? not that much worse is calling here.
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It's pretty thin. You might actually do a bit better by check-calling the river, given how often players seem to auto bet when checked to.
I actually feel that preflop is super-standard.
The hand is ranked 11% in Oracle (6Way), and has 40% versus a top 7% range. "Obviously" looking at those numbers in a vacuum is an easy and somewhat stupid approach, but when you have ~7% more equity than needed to break even on the call, I think that you should be able to earn more than 0bb on the call, even if you have to manouver OOP for the rest of the pot.
Flop and turn are reasonably standard. I'm betting river here, since I feel my bluffs get called "to much" by regulars (Which probably means I'm bluffing to much). Nothing wrong with going for a check/call if you think reads warrant that.
Diamonds miss, and you should not have alot of 75, 53 in your range, so it really looks like ~"4xxx or nothing", which I think will make him call with QQ+. Not sure if he valuebets those hands though. Actually an interesting spot.
If you decide to not bet this hand, you have to consider what that does to the range you'll be able to bluff river with (like missed diamonds, if you would bet turn with flushdraw)
Preflop is super standard, agreed. Flop and turn also.
I agree w/ Sightblinder that this open is fine. I wouldn't go as far as to say "super standard" 'cas I let people get away with being tight OOP, but yeah, double suited AK** is not too loose here.
Flop looks fine to me, and I like leading the turn as well (although I'd probably go slightly bigger). River is debatable, but my preference would be to check/call I think purely because villain's range shouldn't include that many bluff-catchers - I would expect a lot of people to c-bet the flop with 8***, overpairs etc. meaning he's more weighted towards diamonds and overcards. If you have knowledge to the contrary (ie he can check overpairs on the flop here) then I think betting becomes more attractive.
I'm also totally on board with the fact that checking this means we have a very narrow value range so theoretically can't bluff the river that much. However, given this is 50PLO, I don't think that's something we need to be overly concerned with and should more be focused on maxing this hand in a vacuum.
I agree, just shit to keep in the back of your head as you progress upward through the septic slum that is PLO!
edit: cant make up my mind. I feel like betting here is so good for my ranges OTRAlso, very good points regarding what his check-back OTF means, and when I think about it more, I think I prefer check/calling.
On further thought, if we believe that villain is weighted towards draws and other kinds of Lindsay Lohan hands, does that warrent the lack of a valuebetting range OTR in this spot?
Im not 100% sure but inmy opinion I feel like river is a clear valueet. I mean if we bet FD on the turn and have no showdownvalue we would always bet this. Thats why trips is a must bet too imo.
*edit*
thanks for pointing out pre play,will take a note.
not sure, but seems V is ~55% cbet in 3b pots, so with this stat checking back overpair is quite allowable.I guess its huge reason for betting otr.
actually, could or should we check back OP here at all otf (in villains shoes)?
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