top2 vs pot+call in 3bet pot
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top2 vs pot+call in 3bet pot
BB: $56.23
UTG: $56.62
HJ: $34.80
CO: $25.35 (Hero)
BN: $76.84
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.65, BN folds, SB raises to $2.20, BB calls $1.95, Hero calls $1.55
- SB plays 29/18 with a 11% 3bet over 137 hands. He has been mainly 3betting IP thus far tho so I'd say his range is tigher than those 11%. He's Cbet 5 out of 6 times in a 3bet pot so far.
- BB is 18/9 and very passive postflop for his tightness. No reads on him.
Pre: Should I fold this? Having position in a 3way 3bp I maybe overcall too lose, but the 3bet was pretty small due to my small open so SPR is decent.
Flop:
- I'd say SB pots flop with 2p, oesd+pair and wraps.
- BB call vs the potsized cbet is quite unusual. I'd expect shoves from sets, oftentimes straights (even tho on a rainbow board they could very well slowplay) and wraps. So I feel like he mostly has stuff like 876, 875, 64 etc.
If I give both players these ranges my EQ against it is around 30% (a bit higher than SB, a good chunk lower than BB). How do we play this flop? I shoved here b/c I nobrained "3bet pot. top2. shove!" but in retrospect I'm not too sure about that.
- Folding: Just seems too nitty. Sets are unlikely since the board is so low and we block 2 of them. SB wouldn't pot out 47 (which he almost never has) I assume and BB would shove with most hands that beat us (42, 47, sets, wrap+pair).
- Calling: We could call to gii on blanks. But the problem is that here aren't too many blanks (T,J,Q I'd say) so that will not make us too much money.
- Shoving: As I stated we SHOULD be rarely beat here but it's still a bit confusing how SB and BB played the flop.
Sooo, 1, 2 or 3, what's it gonna be? :)
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I think your ranges are a bit too narrow, SB will probably cbet a bit wider even though he shouldn't on this board. BBs call is not that unusual imo. Folding is no option and call neither, you don't improve that often and have no idea which cards are good for you. Just jam here imo.
hi
here we have just to look to SPR
close to 4 !
DP and a little blocker on SD who also gives you slighty improving chances turn/river and obv your full outs.
as Patrick said "jam !"
I think that was a loose open pre. If the btn And the blinds had hi fold to steal, I'd open but we don't have those reads, I think.
Even if you have position I think this hand is just too loose and doesn't play well multiway.
As played, since the blinds' vpip/pfr are not crazy, I think the flop does not hit their range. AAxx, kkxx, broadway rundowns, 8+ gappy rundowns. And you hit top 2 pair with spr of about 4. I'd jam his flop. ;)
I agree with Pokergirlcruz, i would only open this if the BTN, SB, and BB were tight, and if i opened it i would never call a 3bet with this hand.
As played preflop i think your best option here is to jam the flop, since you hit one of the few good flops for your hand.
Yea i dont think we have enough reads to assume that one or both has us in bad shape.
The fact that the nit calls is a little worrying but a lot of 3bettors would pot any OP+gutter here since one dude is tight and u will rarely have a strong hand.
Nits slowplay more than most w str8s. Some of them only do it when the have redraws, others when they have the naked str8. On this texture tho, the str8 is more vulnerable than on for example a 632r and this texture also contains more draws than a 632r which the nit can have. Doubt he is folding a OE to one bet and a player this tight will rarely have a set/74 so even tho im not excited i think we have to jam.
if this board was like J87 or Q98 and you had top two I might say fold (especially if there was a FD). But on this flop they just aren't going to have enough sets/straights to fold. fwiw I probably just fold this hand to the 3bet. you're rarely going to flop anything strong with this hand that you're excited to get it in with, and most of the time you do you won't get a ton of action. This result is the exception not the rule. Plus the rake at these stakes really kills the profitability of seeing a flop and taking down a medium size pot when you hit or bluff.
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