Standard stack-off by Sauce123?

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Standard stack-off by Sauce123?

BN: mikzoan: $1874
SB: Sauce123: $47353.63
BB: flong78: $2407.17
UTG: bianka15: $4950
HJ: steamraise: $12427.26
CO: gunning4you: $11665.47
Yesterday I was railing the 25/50 zoom games for a bit and this hand happened. I know the high stakes games are very aggressive and I don't have any information about the players' ranges but I was kind of surprised to see Ben snap shoving into two players that deep. Standard or too ambitious?
Preflop ($75.00) (6 Players)
bianka15 raises to $175, steamraise raises to $600, gunning4you folds, mikzoan folds, Sauce123 raises to $2025, flong78 folds, bianka15 calls $1850, steamraise calls $1425
Flop ($6150.00) T T 9 (3 Players)
Sauce123 bets $6122, bianka15 calls $2925, and is all in, steamraise raises to $10402.26, and is all in, Sauce123 calls $4280.26
Turn ($29879.52) T T 9 5 (3 Players)
River ($29879.52) T T 9 5 7 (3 Players)
Final Pot
Sauce123 has 8 A A 7 steamraise has K Q J T bianka15 has 7 6 8 8 steamraise wins $14954.52 , bianka15 wins $14897

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Apoth 10 years, 5 months ago

I think when reviewing something like this the best thought process is not, "Oh, look I found a leak in Sauce's game!"

But rather, "Shit, I've been doing it wrong this whole time!"

Clownfish 10 years, 5 months ago

So basically your fanboy thought process is: " Sauce makes a play -> it's always the right play -> no need ever to be critical or think about it.
Also I am sure such douche comments encourage many new RIO members to comment and express their opinion in the threads.

DeSalle7 10 years, 5 months ago

If Sauce would have had AAT9, would u like a flopcheck in his spot?
Nearly impossible to induce anything in this spot though.
I don't know Sauces range here but I would guess nothing he has here would c/f flop so a flopcheck is probably worthless?

Apoth 10 years, 5 months ago

@ Clown fish, you grossly misunderstand.

It's not like I'm saying sauce plays perfectly or even remotely close to perfectly. Clearly that's not the case and if you asked him I'd sure he'd tell you the same thing.

What I'm trying to say is this.

Digging through the hands of top players and assuming your lines are better when they diverge is probably a larger mistake than assuming their lines are better when your lines diverge.

On top of that, let's just assume that sauce's play here was correct. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's the right line at 0.25/0.50. It could be the case that you just don't have enough equity when raised at 0.25/0.50 because everyone's so nitty. Or it could be that some completely other line is better at 0.25/0.50 because of some universal leak in micro stakes players games etc... Additionally, you can't even be sure that this is sauce's standard line at 25/50.

Maybe one guy was a 98/88 type of player with a 40% 3bet which forced sauce to stack off in a spot he doesn't normally stack off in.

All I'm really trying to say is that you should be extremely careful about interpreting hand histories seen in isolation when you're missing an incredible amount of other information.

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