SH 100plo - opportunity for loose pre flop call (mway, 230bbs deep)

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SH 100plo - opportunity for loose pre flop call (mway, 230bbs deep)

Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) BN: $100.00
SB: $149.89
BB: $233.62 (Hero)
UTG: $210.00
MP: $410.67
CO: $262.61
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is BB with J J 5 6
UTG folds, MP raises to $3.50, CO raises to $12.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $11.00, MP raises to $48.50, CO calls $36.50, Hero

There's a crazy casual player apparently on massive tilt (CO) who is
playing 90/47/14 (3b) and is stacking off incredibly light post flop (like, just stacked off 100bbs w/ dry 2nd pair vs OR in 3b pot). So, good implieds.

OR is a solid, aggressive reg (32/21/5) who knows my game fairly well.

Given stacks and position, this seems like it can be a justifiably loose pre flop call. I wouldn't overcall JJ58s but I would with TT45s (I think that's the bottom).

The thing is that OR always going to 4b top of his range here for value and isolation, we're just not sure if the whale is going to 5b. He has pulled this move before without 5-betting twice, but both instances heads up.

Thoughts? Am I just overthinking a -EV spot bc of circumstances?

What would be the bottom of your over-cold calling range here after you make the first loose call?

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Alexey Altshuller 9 years, 11 months ago

This is simply not the hand to be coldcalling 3bets oop with. While you might have a slight equity edge against the 3bettor, the playability is severely lacking, so you might not get to realize your full equity on a lot of board runouts.
Also, you are probably an equity dog to the original MP openraiser, and who is certainly not folding preflop.
I hate the "wait for a better spot" line, but it could certainly apply here. This is a very clear-cut fold pre. And also just lol@coldcalling a 3bet oop with TT45ss.

As played I guess we can unhappily call the 4bet closing the action, but tbh we shouldnt have even been in this spot to begin with.

Nital J 9 years, 11 months ago

I was lacking sleep when I posted this, it's an easy fold to original 3b.

Worth following up on this post though to ask: what's the bottom of a reasonable range to be cold calling 3b here (given that we can expect a 4b from OR a healthy %)?

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