Set + NFD turn line (250bb deep)

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Set + NFD turn line (250bb deep)

Villain is unknown but no out of line, according to his stats and small sample size.

Flop
Being this deep I decided to slowplay and let him bluff since I block a lot.

Turn,
Is it reasonable to check/call here, in the hopes to get a check/raise on the river?
Leading the river is also a possibility if I check/call.
The standard line seems to be the check/raise but I'm curious whether we should do it 100%.

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Emty 4 years, 10 months ago

Hi PacnyTuH0 ,

I like your line on the Flop, blocking your own boat outs and having bad Turn playability on many cards. Once you get to the Turn you get a huge equity shift and advantage on this specific Turncard. Additionally, you unblock a lot of semibluffs unblocking the front-door nutFD and cards such as 9,T,J. I would definitely get the money in here, also 250bb deep!

GTO might say differently, but I think vs the common playerpool on PLO10 people are certainly overplaying certain draws/made hands in these spots which makes me want to extract max EV.

May I ask what makes you curious going for the c/r 100% of the time on the Turn?

Best,
Emty

PacnyTuH0 4 years, 10 months ago

Thanks for the response.

It was more of a question whether we should be raising 100% once we check. Our hand is too strong and I think check/calling should be done rarely and against specific opponents.

devwil 4 years, 10 months ago

Grunching.

I agree with the flop action, but not the reasoning. There are a lot of bad turns for us and the SPR is high, so I don't want to overcommit just yet. I'd x/c but not to "trap". I'm keeping myself from trapping myself in a bloated pot on future streets.

The turn shouldn't slow villain down super often (unless they just want a free river, which is possible) and we just turned a lot of good rivers for ourselves, so x/r is the move imo. Our second nuts are nicely disguised and we block the nuts and we're never drawing dead.

(Ungrunched.)

I don't see any reason to x/c turn. If villain folds to our raise, that's fine. We've won two bets from them and our worst rivers never come. (And if we run into the case KK, oh well. Sucks. We have NFD and one Q to save us.)

Muehlenzwick 4 years, 10 months ago

very much agree with this and want to highlight the importance of your play not beeing a slowplay on the flop like devwil said. Its very important to understand that. Your hand is too weak and does not block enough of villains continuing range to be a slowplay.

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