really tricky turn spot - playing 300bb deep
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really tricky turn spot - playing 300bb deep
BN: $297.33
SB: $456.68 (Hero)
BB: $275.94
UTG: $48.03
HJ: $187.73
CO: $141.95
SB: $456.68 (Hero)
BB: $275.94
UTG: $48.03
HJ: $187.73
CO: $141.95
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
T
9
7
7
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $3, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds
Flop
($7.00)
7
5
Q
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
BN bets $3.34,
Hero raises to $15,
BN raises to $26.66,
Hero calls $11.66
Turn
($63.66)
7
5
Q
9
(2 Players)
Hero checks,
BN bets $57.61,
Hero folds
Final Pot
BN
wins $57.61
No specific reads on villain, after 200hands def on tighter side 16/12.
I suppose flop c/r was too ambitious playing so deep. I don't know. I just thought that 0.5/1 tight reg probably won't be super tricky so I can get away with this. Anyway I have no idea what his click black means. Have you ?
Anyway turn gets more interesting and first I want to get your opinions.
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I don't think you can fold now when you picked up fd. I don't think he would bet QQxx so big here considering that you could've easily hit the straight..and if he has a straight, you have plenty of outs to hit. I would call and lead flush river, check any other. If he has QQ there are so many bad rivers for him, and you could get away cheaply with mid set. But I think turn is a call
Just would add that your cr is fine here. Id just call turn now. As Drasko said, even betting QQ at all is thin given the most obvious draw got there.
Supereazy muck pre.
Easy turn fold I think. I think you have the best hand about 3% of the time there. No way he's betting almost pot with pocket 5s, especially after the straight hit. And then even if your flush hit, you may not be good. It is curious that he'd bet QQ so big on turn there, even though the str8 hit though.
You kinda have to call the turn, but just remember for next time that you got yourself into this spot on your own. You're putting in way too much money here with too weak a hand. With stacks this deep I think naked middle set is much better to keep in your calling range. And again, even though you can get away with calling this hand preflop with 100bb stacks, I think you need to be MUCH more careful in the SB when 300 bb deep.
+1. Going for a big score with a mostly naked middle set seems ambitious OOP and deep vs a tight player in a singly-raised pot. I don't think we'll be doing too great those times we get to the river in a big pot. Stacking off OTF won't be pleasant, and there are so many bad T+R combinations to wade through when he calls, or we call his 3B.
The deeper we are, the more PLO becomes a game of redraws and here we don't have much. Sure, a board-pairing turn improves us, but then we'll invite negative implied odds if we go for his stack. He'll shut down when we're ahead and go for our stack when we're behind. Nutty coverage of some non-pairing turns would have given us much better big-pot-potential (like nutstraight with boat redraw and perhaps even a freeroll).
c/c flop sets us up for playing a small-to-moderate pot, and I think our hand should perform better there. It also strengthens/balances our c/c range.
I think fold preflop is one option.especially villian 16/12
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