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Reacting to Flop Min Raise 240bb~ Deep

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Reacting to Flop Min Raise 240bb~ Deep

Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $3.45
SB: $2.18
BB: $0.96
UTG: $7.21 (Hero)
MP: $4.42
CO: $4.82
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A 7 A K
Hero raises to $0.07, MP folds, CO calls $0.07, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05
Flop ($0.22) 4 J 9
BB checks, Hero bets $0.13, CO raises to $0.26, BB folds, Hero raises to $0.66, CO calls $0.40
Turn ($1.54) 4 J 9 K
Hero bets $1.00, CO calls $1.00
River ($3.54) 4 J 9 K 9
Hero checks, CO checks
Final Pot UTG wins and shows two pair, Aces and Nines.
UTG wins $3.42
Rake is $0.12

These were villians stats that for some reason didn't show when I was playing him at the table but were available in the Pokertracker HH

CO: 241 BB[/b] (VPIP: 36.57, PFR: 19.39, 3Bet Preflop: 9.02, Hands: 373)

I'm not going to act like I know what I am doing here. My flop raise was to fold out complete bluffs given the line villian took which in retrospect seems pretty bad being OOP this deep. My turn bet had no thought behind it, which also makes it terribad.

I know that folding is pretty terrible given villians raise size on the flop, but calling trying to hit the 1 Ace that does not complete a flush in the deck for top set must be really bad, also trying to hit a non-diamond J/10 for a back door straight draw sounds terrible because it hits villians range much harder than mine and I'm also OOP. However raising only folds out pure bluffs.

On the converse, If I was villian should I bluff that river considering that I most likely would put it on the flop with a set and would c-bet that river with a flush/boat given the previous action? (If I somehow got to the river with that hand)

Thank you very much

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Cthulu23 9 years, 3 months ago

1st of all you could not take the hud into consideration at all at 1/2c except for the sole purpose of dividing players into nit fish and fish, make no mistake, they are all fish, regardless of their preflop stats. 2nd, flop 3bet is horrible, you have 0 fold equity oop etc, a standard fold is best and as a side note i'd check fold a flop like 862dd, heck you might even c/f this, the only reason for betting being the fact that you block some combinations of higher rundowns and you have the king of spades which may help you to bluff on a spade. 3rd, the turn bet is a mistake, clearly a card far better for his range since he capped his value range by just calling your flop 3bet ( skewing his range heavily towards drawing hands) and even if he didn't have that many straight now, there are 2 fdraws out there, a ton of 4 card straightening rivers and you block none of it, river is fine i guess, he won't fold J9 ever maybe not even a flush.
I did not read your reasoning since it's a wall of text and im a bit sleepy but i feel these are the points that should be made about this hand. Hope this helped :)

SleazeDingo 9 years, 3 months ago

Thank you very much.

In retrospect I shared some views that you had, but you added many great points for me to think about in further play. I never considered that checking was best in this spot on the flop before you explained it to me. The idea about the villians capped range was really insightful

Thanks alot for the great advice

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