Say you 3bet QJ97ss btn vs co against like 28% steal or whatever and a guy 4bets from bb 200bbs deep and 1st guy cold calls => ??? I find myself a lot of the times terribly dominated 3way but I watched quite a few situations like this at high stakes where the 3rd guy always calls. Isn't it -EV? 4bettor has 125-150bbs the other two 200. I was in a situation like this bb checked co donked pot with KT98 and with higher kicker and higher fdraw and got it in dead. I'm guessing combination wise it happens not that often but shouldn't we be avoiding it altogether?

Or another one we open button 100-150bbs deep J965ss we get 3bet from sb and cold call bb both decent players - fold or pot odds? Let's say flop comes T43tt sb bets bb folds we have double ender and bad flushdraw, he can have just Af blocker or he can have the fdraw and have us dead or like AA+gutshot and we make a terrible fold. And then let's say the turn is a J, same problem, in his shoes if we hit JT then so be it, he still pots AA+ gutshot or maybe even naked for fold equity or like 6789+fdraw and we make a horrible fold.