PLO30 Facing Donkbet Multiway

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PLO30 Facing Donkbet Multiway

SB: Jon Doe: $0
BB: Player1 - VPIP: 30, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 0,0, Hands: 37: $398.56
UTG: Player2 - VPIP: 64, PFR: 31, 3B: 11, AF: 4,8, Hands: 59: $447.98
HJ: Player3 - VPIP: 55, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3,0, Hands: 11: $250
CO: Hero - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 4,4, Hands: 30245: $410.43
BN: Player5 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 17, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 6: $200
Preflop ($3.00) (5 Players)
Jon Doe was dealt 8 5 J Q
Jon Doe raises to $7, Jon Doe folds, Jon Doe calls $6, Jon Doe calls $5
I open, Player 2 calls and Player 3 aswell.
Flop ($21.00) T K 8 (4 Players)
Jon Doe checks, Jon Doe bets $21, Jon Doe calls $21, Jon Doe raises to $105, Jon Doe folds, Jon Doe calls $84
Player 3 donks pot. Cant really see myself doing anything different then calling with the lack of nuttiness. Also if we raise, we could get it in very bad if both gets along and they hold hands that dominate me. Then Player 2 check/raises. I think having Player 2 folding made me call. If he would have called the check/raise I would be more inclined to fold just because Im easily dominated vs 2. Just vs Player 2 its different. I think Im priced in to call here right? Or should we ship over the donk bet in the first place?
Turn ($252.00) 7 (3 Players)
Jon Doe bets $252, Jon Doe raises to $298.43, Jon Doe calls $46.43
Rest of the hand plays out itself.
River ($848.86) Q (3 Players)
Final Pot
Jon Doe has 8 5 J Q Jon Doe wins $833.86

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Clownfish 12 years, 2 months ago
Maybe it's a good idea to post the hand on pokerhand.org or weaktight.com and paste the link til the guys fix the hand converter. It is pretty annoying this way.
eldodo42 12 years, 2 months ago
Very interesting hand. It strongly depends on villains' VPIPs, to determine how often they have nut flush draws and such. After all, we're ahead of a naked set and probably way ahead of most two pairs type hands (even if they have some weakish draw. In fact, as long as no one has the NFD, we should get the money to the middle as soon as possible.

My instinct on the table is to look at VPIPs, see how wide they are, and then raise the donk bet and get it in (assuming we're against the two small stacks; can't figure out villains' stack depths). I think that should be nicely +EV and good for your overall game, but this very well might not be as +EV as calling. Overall flatting is nice, but I don't see myself folding even facing the c/r: I think we're not up against the NFD often enough for it to make this a fold, but I'm not sure: it really depends on villains' aggression.
Viktor Luis Larsson 12 years, 2 months ago
Against naked set we got 45% equity, vs KT we got 55%, vs KQJdd we got 55% also. Against AKQJdd we got 23% equity. I think the last one can be of meaning in this spot since one can have nut flush draw and the other one a big wrap/set.

In my experience, VPIP doesnt necessarily mean they people are getting it in light. I think people with higher VPIP then others calls down more often with medium strength hands. They tend to call down lighter and show up with low flushes/straights. I still believe in these spots you should give them credit for check/raising and donkbetting.

Were 200bb deep with the check/raiser and 100bb deep with the donkbettor.

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