PLO25 cbet spot OOP
Posted by Todd Fletcher
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Todd Fletcher
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PLO25 cbet spot OOP
UTG: $21.99
HJ: $25
CO: $25
BN: $25.60
SB: $30.78 (Hero)
BB: $42.76
HJ: $25
CO: $25
BN: $25.60
SB: $30.78 (Hero)
BB: $42.76
Preflop
($0.35)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
K
K
6
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $0.75, BN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.25, BB folds, CO calls $2.50, BN calls $2.50
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $0.75, BN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.25, BB folds, CO calls $2.50, BN calls $2.50
Thought it was a good spot to pump for value, and lower spr to make hand easier to play postflop.
Flop
($10.10)
9
5
3
(3 Players)
Hero checks,
CO checks,
BN checks
SPR was low, and I didn't feel comfortable bet/folding 3way. I thought bet/calling is fine, if one folds, but I'd need to bet/fold if I bet and there was a raise and a call or a raise with a shove behind.
Turn
($10.10)
9
5
3
J
(3 Players)
Hero bets $9.58,
CO folds,
BN raises to $22.35, and is all in,
Hero calls $12.77
Turn plays itself I think, after no action on flop, I knew this card would give a lot of two pairs, but I think I have to bet here.
River
($54.80)
9
5
3
J
T
(2 Players)
Final Pot
Hero has
A
K
K
6
BN has
8
9
J
A
BN
wins $52.70
Reviewing, I think the mistake is fairly obvious, I should be leading flop for some amount. What amount is good?, this flop is rainbow but smashes a lot of mid card hands.
I did some ppt sims and was quite surprised by how much equity I have vs a lot of good hands. The only real hand that had me smashed was 2 pair+, even vs 976x I'm still at 62% equity, which I think is enough to bet 5$ and call off vs.
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I would not 3-bet this dangler hand OOP and multiway. Calling is a very good option, and 3-betting has to outperform that.
This is not a particularly bad flop for you, but it's still a little iffy to bet into two players. So few turns are good, and your opponents have a pretty good idea about what you have. There are many flops like this (and plenty that are much worse). No man's land type of flops, where you usually have the best hand, but the c-bet is mostly for bluffing/protection. And checking won't do much for you either.
I think your best option is to bet the flop, though, once you're here.Thank you for reply.
I thought, that the squeeze, would get one opponent to fold at least about 40%.. is this hopeful thinking?
The dangler is ugly, what x do we need here, for this AcKcKsX to become a fairly obvious 3bet? or when does it become close.
Villains were both about 25 vpip... Does it matter if they are 15? 35? 60+? Or does our relative position trump this when figuring out what's more optimal preflop.
Doublesuited would be nice. Or a kicker that could participate in Broadway straights (T+). Fold equity is scarce, I think, so you should plan for playing flops multiway.
When both players are ~25% VPIP, you might think this means fold equity. But tight players play good hands, and they have position on you. Expect calls.
Right, makes sense. So a Akk3ds is automatic, and a AKK5ss is closer.
How does villains vpip affect our decision process. Or should I be looking more into a 4bet % ?
I feel like I may be thinking about this wrong, and I should be keeping it simpler, and thinking more along the lines of, "in sb vs 2 opponents, a CO open and OTB flat with AKK6ss"
The first thing I'm thinking in your shoes is: "This is a very good hand and situation to flat".
And there it stops for me, when I see the dangler and all the flops where I'm sitting OOP and multiway with only my overpair. When we have such a good option in flatting, I become very picky about 3-betting.
But let's say you're on the BTN. 3-betting CO's open makes more sense now, especially if he's playing tight and straightforward. Being HU in position makes it much easier to realize your raw equity edge. So it's fine to skimp a little on the playability. Flatting is still a good option, of course (playing kings in a single-raised pot is never bad).Be the first to add a comment