PLO 50 HU: AAKr 4b pot
Posted by Yulian Z
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PLO 50 HU: AAKr 4b pot
SB: $68.43 (Hero)
BB: $75.53
BB: $75.53
Villian is reg. Stats (100 hands overall):
BB preflop - fold 47% / call 29% / 3b 24%.
3bpots - fold2CB 40% / raiseCB 0% / callCB 60%.
BB preflop - fold 47% / call 29% / 3b 24%.
3bpots - fold2CB 40% / raiseCB 0% / callCB 60%.
Preflop
($0.75)
(2 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
5
A
K
Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $3.75, Hero raises to $11.25, BB calls $7.50
Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $3.75, Hero raises to $11.25, BB calls $7.50
With such weak AA I would like to call if eff stack is >200bb. But this deep 4b is OK I guess. Moreover it's not my first 4b and villian saw non-AA hand at showdown being 4-betted pre.
Flop
($24.50)
8
2
K
(2 Players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $16.74,
BB calls $16.74
Standard CB. Size OK ? Can we bet/fold here?
Turn
($57.98)
8
2
K
8
(2 Players)
BB checks,
Hero checks
River
($57.98)
8
2
K
8
3
(2 Players)
BB checks
Do we have a valuebet here? Can we expect a herocall from AKxx?
OK. Here are my overall thoughts:
1) With this spr @ flop and my CB size I don't see a lot of FD hands in his c/c range. Imho all 2pairs+ and FD+pair should jam here.
2) I am not very agressive at turn/river in 3b pots. So I expect easy value bet from villian with most of flushes @ river if he has'em.
3) Taking into account flop action and 4 spades @ board + 1 in my hand I see very small number of flushes in his range at river.
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First off, in HU I think you can 4bet all AA no matter how deep you are. There simply isn't much villain can do about it, especially when he 3bets 24% (which is a bit aggro but nothing abnormal).
As played flop seems standard. If he jams here it's ugly but we only need ~30% equity at that point, and I think it's fairly close. Against a range of (24%!AA):(K8, K2, 88, 22, KK, K:ss) we have 25%. On the other hand, if we pot here get jammed we only need 23.9% equity, so we can still profitably pot/call vs that range. Since he knows you are capable of 4betting with non-AA hands, I actually think his stacking off range on the flop might be a bit wider than that, so I would lean towards bet/call.
On the river, I think your decision whether to vbet or not greatly depends on how villain perceives your 4betting range. Some 4betting range in this spot just doesn't have enough hands that need to be used as a bluff. If you 4b good QQxx and rundowns you can now turn them into a bluff, except that lots of rundowns have 8 in it. Also, if he doesn't have spades you're more likely to have them so you can have lots of flushes here.
That said, I just don't think this is a spot where you are bluffing all that often, and thus we shouldn't be thin vbetting much either from GTO perspective. However, given that we are likely to have the best hand a lot here, plus the fact that he can find a hero call with Kx, I think we can still vbet and be profitable.
Thanks, midori. I really appreciate your comment.
Looking from villian prespective are you donking flush or 8x on the turn? If no, should villian bet OTR? (spr on the turn is already ~0,7)
No prob Yulian, glad it was helpful.
Like you said, I would expect villain to x/jam FD a decent amount of time on the flop, so I don't see lots of flushes in his range. Likewise, I doubt he would x/c with naked 8x (read: no FD) too often on the flop.
That said, if I somehow had them in villain's shoes, I will donk them on the turn reasonably often, and if that didn't work, I'm definitely betting the river. I think I have the best hand quite often, but I would expect you to check back tons of hands otr, which might call a bet (especially AAxx). If he wakes up with a better hand somehow, I'm getting felted anyway so that doesn't matter a whole lot.
Question is, can we have bluffs when taking this line? Well not really, we are guaranteed to have Kxxx or better pretty much always. However, since I think you will call with AAxx sometimes but not always, I guess this is a good spot to turn Kxxx into a bluff too.
Hi guys,
Just wondering, what range do you give villain for c/c OTF in this spot? SPR OTF is ~2.5 so should he really have a c/c range at all?
OR maybe, if he is sure you have AAxx, he knows he doesn't have FE if he shoves, and just calls and try to hit? He'd defenitely push pair+FD, or better, so when he c/c, doesn't that leave him with a range of mostly Kxxx(w/o a FD), and some middle rundowns with FD(that don't want to gii on the F), but can gii when the turn improves them(hit a pair, another draw or smth)....and so, isn't it realistic for villain to have a bunch of low/middle FDs, which he decides to play in this matter on the T and R?
I think you're right, villain can have some mid/low FD's as well as Kxxx that didn't improve. Those flushes are probably not folding, but Kxxx might find a hero call too, which is what we are hoping for when betting the river. Also, with his flushes I would expect him to lead the river somewhat often, because it's so likely that we will just check back again. If that is true, I think we can thin value bet on the river because we're now looking at more Kxxx compared to flushes.
That was exactly what I thought after villian checked the river.
I shoved, he spent almost all tb and called w AKxx (with 1 spade).
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