PLO 5 - AA vs UTG

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PLO 5 - AA vs UTG

Blinds: $0.02/$0.05 (6 Players) BN: $6.27
SB: $6.46 (Hero)
BB: $14.45
UTG: $6.10
MP: $10.62
CO: $6.07
Preflop ($0.07) Hero is SB with K 5 A A
UTG raises to $0.17, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB folds
Flop ($0.39) A 9 J
Hero checks, UTG checks
Turn ($0.39) A 9 J K
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24
River ($0.87) A 9 J K 5
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.72, Hero folds
Final Pot UTG wins $0.84
Rake is $0.03

Hi,

could you tell me if this fold on the river is too weak?

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Nick Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

I would call the river barrel. I think with how you have played the hand through the turn it's really tough to show up with broadway, so sets end up being the top of your range and we need to call or we are just folding too often. Even if you were to argue a very exploitative fold I don't see this line from villain being a frequently under-bluffed one. If anything I think it's often an over-bluffed line once you check to him on the turn OOP. He will perceive your range as quite capped and attack.

Gweedz 6 years, 3 months ago

I don't really like calling much in the SB, i'd probably 3bet this hand.

As played I would call the river for the reasons Nick mentioned, you sort of underplayed the hand and he's likely not expecting you to be as strong as top set. This is especially true when checked to on the river, I think player pool almost always bets a straight here and top set is the next best thing.
I'd fold if the 5 completed FD.

Nick Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

In theory we are mixing the rainbow AA combos here like 60/40 between 3b/flat I believe. Probably arguable in these games that we increase that frequency even a bit more, so yeah it would be fine imo.

Gweedz 6 years, 3 months ago

Nick Johnson - when you say it’s arguable to increase frequency are you referencing the rake or way population plays?

I feel like both could be incentives to increase 3b frequency with hands like rainbow AA but curious to hear your thoughts.

Nick Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

I agree I think both could be argued. Rake is enough of a factor to where we probably do want to 3 bet a little more than what is optimal just in general and I don't think these populations tend to play very well in 3B pots in general.

stianchrister 6 years, 3 months ago

If we're flatting AAxx preflop (which I kinda like when they're dry), I think we should have a leading range on the flop. Our ranges are both really strong, and I think we should have a leading range on these kinda boards where we smash top set because our strong range makes it more likely that he'll check back a lot of hands that he would bet against a weaker range.

We can lead something like sets, massive combo draws, and some draws that aren't good enough to check-call.

As played, I'd bet the turn. He can call a lot of worse hands.

I call the river because theory, but expect to lose because PLO5 players are tight-passive postflop.

Nick Johnson 6 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, this is an interesting spot as far as OTF regarding leading. UTG still has a little bit of an advantage due to some of hero's combos being removed by just flatting, but his flatting range should still hit this texture pretty hard a lot of the time. Would be curious to see some other players' takes on it. Would have to do some work off the table to figure out the right balance, but I can see leading at some frequency making sense. I for sure like making the player IP react to us, so I do like trying to be aggressive, but not sure if we still should be leading here that often. Interesting take and spot.

impregnatio 6 years, 2 months ago

which AA no suits are a pfr? AA two broadway cards?
wet flop - hoping to check raise?
aside from potting flop, what about half pot hoping for raise?

(seems in a few recent posts players are checking strong but vulnerable hands)

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