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PLO 25 3b AA & see 532hhh flop

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PLO 25 3b AA & see 532hhh flop

BN: $43.75
SB: $25.24 (Hero)
BB: $72
UTG: $11.11
HJ: $24.65
CO: $51.45
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt 6 A 7 A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, BN calls $1.95
Flop ($5.95) 3 2 5 (2 Players)
Against an unknown, what's the best play in this spot?

I think a bet is nice if the board is like QT3hhh because you protect against a hand like Pair + GS.

What about on a monotone board such as this without so many draws (where we're beat by a made flush/straight & if not, we're pretty far ahead against like rundown (e.g. JT97 where we're 92% equity if no flush) or QQxx type hand (90% equity if no flush)

I'm thinking x/c flop (induce bluff & not worried about giving a free card) then x/f turn/river without reads that our opponent is aggressive & will multi-barrel bluff?

Opinions?


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arukidinme 11 years, 5 months ago

I would not 3b this pre, pretty trashy AA hand and we are bloating a pot OOP.  As played I would make a stab since I think a lot of stabs work on mono boards but would not 3b PF

dddduhh 11 years, 5 months ago
The mindset I have with even trashy AAxx right now is that even with rainbow AA72, I'm 60% equity vs. basically any open range (100%-10% BU open frequency).

If the opponent is opening >50% BUs, there is a possibility we get him to fold preflop. And all dry flops are basically ours (probably 30-40% of possible boards).

I mean I can't see the right adjustment to our opponent playing well postflop to not 3b AA. I think it has to be to 3b a wide range such that he can't say "ok, this guy just 3b, he's got AA most of the time"

Do you know what I mean yet still have a different mindset?
arukidinme 11 years, 5 months ago

The problem with looking at the hot/cold equities is that post flop the equities are going to start to fork in separate directions.  A lot of the flops that you you like, your opponent is going to play well (folding Axx flops, air, etc..).  So while we bet $2.80 with 60% equity preflop we are going to be putting in a lot more money post flop in very difficult situations and likely not be able to realize our equity.

Also about 70% of the time we are going to be left with a bare OP.  So on 70% of flops we are playing ~4SPR and few turns and rivers that we are going to like.  

Also AA[8-2][8-2]$ss$op is about 1/5 of our AA hands so it's not like we are taking a lot out of our 3b range by having them in our flatting range.  It is possible to construct a 3b range with these hands and it be profitable but you probably want to be 3b like 10% of hands to have a good mix of KK strong QQ and good rundowns.

Imfish4u 11 years, 5 months ago

I would def. cbet this flop cuz he will fold a lot of hands that have decent equity against ours and he will not hit that flop too often if the pot would be MW it is a different story. I think 3 betting pre is pretty close spot here. I really dont think that x/c is an option here unless you are planning on calling 3 barrels with AA on a boad like this, which i wouldnt suggest!

Joniko1 11 years, 5 months ago

I would always c-bet mono boards half pot (whether I hit or not) unless I have a Villain specific reason not to.  Villain will miss more than he hits and will probably fold his missed hands to a c-bet.  A bigger bet is not necessary on a lock-down board and you can even bet smaller against some opponents at lower stakes.

I don't like c/c as you are giving a free card to a lot of hands that can improve to 2 pair or better which would fold to your c-bet.

+1 to flatting this pre-flop rather than 3-betting.

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