Playing wider than Vision preflop? PLO50
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Playing wider than Vision preflop? PLO50
I wonder if there are any merits by playing a bit wider than Vision suggest? Im mostly talkling about for example opening all suited kings and like QQ89ss from EP/MP which otherwise would be a fold at my stakes. And what about coldcalling those high pairs in multiway pots vs fish, say QQ73sss/QJJ5ss from late positions or in the blinds to purely setmine and likely getting paid when we hit. And much easier to get in a lot of money on the flop in multiway pots. If fishes are opening/calling trash hands WAY wider than GTO and also being very sticky on the flop, shouldn't we deviate and be able to call a bit wider? I know rake is a concern but if the fish will stack off too light, won't that make up for it?
The GTO ranges are so nitty it is insane and made the game way less fun imo
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EP RFI is like 18% which is quite loose alrdy for my taste
Maybe not opening wider but what about calling big pairs in multiway pots to setmine?
If people are playing like 50% of their hands and pay off with bad 2 pairs etc, would it not be profitable?
You can join my discord channel. We have a small group of PLO beginners, I would give you my Starting hand chart too:
https://discord.gg/zMdxNSym
If people play 50% you can loose up to 30% in general to keep the edge range-wise but position is still important. Wide ranges often run similar equity-wise but the problem primarily arise with domination issues postflop, underrealization of hands etc...
Hello! I really would like to join your channel please! :-) But the link is invalid now.
tesla79 This should work:
https://discord.gg/zMdxNSym
You should probably play tighter. You're playing 50PLO, by far the strongest opponent at your table is the rake. Calls get maximally punished by the rake. The monkersolver sims in Vision accounts for this, but they don't account for your opponents playing hands they shouldn't. While that seems to justify playing wider, it's actually the opposite (harder to steal 3 way+ pots) and is especially true if you don't have the button.
Hello! I believe that if you want to play a wider range, it's reasonable to include more hands like KKxx and QQxx when you're on the BTN, especially if there's a very loose and sticky recreational player at the table who would stack off on the flop with low sets or two pairs, paying off your top sets. In other scenarios, I would recommend playing tighter due to the high rake.
Cool, thanks for the answers!
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