PL25 Zoom: bottom sets on super drawy board 4way
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PL25 Zoom: bottom sets on super drawy board 4way
villain 63/25 over 5 hands
CO 24/13 over 80 hands
rest unknown
Just wondering whether I can already fold this here given that I myself block two of my outs and there are two more players behind me on a super drawy board. How big is the difference to TT88 here?
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Yeah pretty sad spot, we have only two nut outs, versus the nuts, and we block no clubs, Q, J, K so I feel like the pot can get out of control and quick. With TT88 I would be tempted to peel this bet but we still need to be cautious with two more players behind.
It always makes me laugh when I have 2 sets.....overkill and you're right you have yourself blocked
Folding TT88 to this small bet-sizing would be bad imo. There's a reasonable chance we have the best hand and we definitely have enough equity to continue against such a small bet.
I did a quick PPT sim to check how much equity we have against their preflop ranges. I assumed 20% ranges for MP and CO, and a 6% squeezing range for SB.
I think that with the hand we have here, it would have been a fairly straightforward fold if SB made a more standard cbet. With the cbet being as small as it is I think it's close. The times we get to see a turn we should be able to realize at least some of our equity. The bad news are that even if we remove KJ from SB's range, someone will have a straight 46% of the time. If we add some QQ+FD and strong draws like AKcc we can expect a raise behind us somewhat frequently. So I think against the small cbet we're looking at a pretty close spot but probably a fold.
Hey ph33rox, is that little graph from odds oracle?
I think so :)
too nitty to fold pre to 3b seeing as we have the worse relative position?
I think it's a reasonable option, but our particular hand doesn't depend a ton on position postflop, and it's not terribly likely that players behind us will wake up with a 4bet. So I think calling is better than folding, but I might be wrong.
Any one there can tell me how to use the range $fi20 and $3b6o in odds oracle, when i type that in i get error.
You need to first download the ranges into odds oracle. Try this link:
http://help.pokerjuice.com/hc/en-us/articles/201943998-Download-all-ranges
Thanks, very useful:)
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