Pair + FD in 4way 3bet pot
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Pair + FD in 4way 3bet pot
BN: $50
SB: $86.21 (Hero)
BB: $50.75
UTG: $248.11
HJ: $140.12
CO: $52.07
SB: $86.21 (Hero)
BB: $50.75
UTG: $248.11
HJ: $140.12
CO: $52.07
The 3bettor in this hand has a 4% 3bet stat over 261 hands. I expect his 3bet to be quite strong here, since the player opening under the gun is a 28/19 reg.
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
J
T
8
7
UTG raises to $1.50, HJ calls $1.50, CO raises to $6.75, BN folds, Hero calls $6.50, BB folds, UTG calls $5.25, HJ calls $5.25
UTG raises to $1.50, HJ calls $1.50, CO raises to $6.75, BN folds, Hero calls $6.50, BB folds, UTG calls $5.25, HJ calls $5.25
Not sure if this is standard on my part given it's quite a big squeeze. I expect the pot to be at least 3way, since HJ (the flat caller) is a pretty big fish and will never fold. We're sitting deep with UTG and HJ, and we have the worst absolute position in the hand and also the worst relative position, since we'll often be facing a cbet from CO and be put in a tough spot where we might have to lay down a ton of equity because of the players behind us.
I think I just convinced myself this is a fold.
I think I just convinced myself this is a fold.
Flop
($27.50)
3
T
2
(4 Players)
Hero checks,
UTG checks,
HJ checks,
CO bets $26.26
Pot comes out pretty dry, and as expected CO pots. I expect him to do that with all of his 3betting range which should be very AA/KK heavy. Obviously we are happy to get this in against him, but there are 2 players behind us, who have an effective SPR of 3 against us.
I know this is solvable with math, but given it's 4way, we're looking at a lot of work, and first I wanna see if you guys think it's close or not.
I know this is solvable with math, but given it's 4way, we're looking at a lot of work, and first I wanna see if you guys think it's close or not.
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I find all the assumptions you listed here correct. That said, call/folding seems like the worst way to play our hand, and if we raise/gii I'm afraid we only get it in vs an overpair+FD at the very least (has us in a very bad shape), not even mentioning we are not that much ahead vs cbettors range either. You may be surprised how some of those loose players tighten up 4ways. Easy fold OTF, probably why it was a fold in the first place. Never considering getting it in here even with 100bb, deep especially.
I don't think it is even close with 8high fd and we are deeper than 100bb vs some of villains. I would fold.
Yea, I ended up folding and thought it was fine. How about preflop?
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