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Optimal Blinds VPIP in $0.5/$1 PLO 6-max

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Optimal Blinds VPIP in $0.5/$1 PLO 6-max

Does anyone have any advice for optimal SB and BB VPIP for PLO 6-max? fwiw, my stats so far in FTP rush PLO $0.5/$1 are 24/18/3.5 with a 9% 3b after 63K hands.

I feel like I'm spewing from the blinds, but am not sure...(I just started learning PLO two months ago). My VPIP by position is listed below:

BTN = 37.6%
CO = 24.7%
MP = 17.3%
EP = 14.7%
SB = 23.5%
BB = 21%

I'm showing a profit from every position except the blinds. Also, if anyone has an idea what a good "loss rate" from each blind is, please let me know. Right now I'm losing 55bb/100 from the BB and losing 33bb/100 from the SB.

Any advice is appreciated.

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Nic Morgan 12 years, 2 months ago
I think these seem pretty standard. BB is maybe a tad high but you 3bet quite a lot so maybe you 3bet BB vs. steal a lot or something. I think btn of almost 40% seems a little high but I could be wrong. I would think btn closer to 32-33% range would be better.
ZenFish 12 years, 2 months ago
I remember vaguely one of the CR pros estimating -15 bb/100 and -30 bb/100 as good numbers for SB and BB loss in NLHE.

I really don't know what those numbers should be in PLO, but it's a starting point. It makes sense that they should be a bit worse in PLO, since position is so huge in this game, but then again PLO players generally play worse, so perhaps that evens out.

Playing OOP is hard, and if you lose more than you should from the blinds, your opponents at this level are probably making similar mistakes. So you take turns abusing each other from the BTN, and are effectively swapping lots of mistakes back and forth.

Doing the same mistakes as your opponents is of course not an excuse to keep doing it. But if that's the case, at least you're not being exploited hard (for now). You could check your database and see how the other good regs are faring in the blinds. If they do significantly better, you can perhaps learn something from them.
Sam Lang 12 years, 2 months ago
I would say the key to increasing winrate [or decreasing loserate if we wanna look at it that way] from the blinds is to pay close attention to what the opponents are doing and adjust our preflop strategy accordingly. how they play post flop is very important, how they play vs 3bs etc. for example vs players who call 3bs and play fit or fold postflop, we can 3b from the blinds a bunch from the blinds and be profitable doing so. in sb vs bb look at their defending stats and pay attention to how they play postflop; again if they are straightforward/weak tight raise a lot, if they're good and 3b/defend and bluff/float etc postflop just fold a bunch more from the blinds.

For the most part playing OOP postflop is not going to be profitable, so one of the best things I think we can do is optimize our preflop selection and be specific vs each opponent. I would say also folding the bottom 15-20% of your range OOP will, for the vast majority of players, increase your winrate outright, as they are most probably losing you money playing those hands.

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