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Observed spot from vid: BvB, check/call on paired turn: what's most common hand you see shown here?

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Observed spot from vid: BvB, check/call on paired turn: what's most common hand you see shown here?

This is from an observed hand from an elite pro vid.

6-max, 100bb effective. Both players are TAG-ish and not doing anything crazy.

Hand is folded to the blinds. SB opens for 3x big blinds, BB calls.

pot 6bb's
Flop: TA7r
SB bets 4.5bb's, BB calls.

pot 15bb's
Turn: TA7Tr
SB checks, BB bets 9bb's, SB calls.

For sake of discussion let's just say BB has QKJ9r and is taking a stab at the turn.

And let's assume SB isn't check/calling here to do something like bluff raise river or anything out of the ordinary. He has something whether it's a made hand/some kind of showdown value, or draw.

What type of hands do you expect a TAG SB to be check/calling here with, in this spot? Which hands do you think a competent opponent never really has by check/calling a paired turn?

I'm posting this because in the vid the pro says his hand is pretty face-up once he check/calls. So if a check/call range here is face-up, what's most commonly showing up in this range? Intuitively I think I see a lot of AK, AQ, AJ here, and some 89. I think most straightforward players will bet FH/trips here, and A7 has a lot of incentive to barrel a straight draw off the turned T here. But beyond that, my best guess is pretty fuzzy here.

Thoughts? Thanks!

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devwil 6 years, 5 months ago

Interesting question.

My impulse is to answer "weak T, AQ", re what they do have. I think AT can check/call here just because of blocking so much of what BB can call with, but that doesn't seem to be what you're getting at.

Re what they don't have: I think 89 check/folds (though SB will probably RFI mostly T98 of 98 combos), as does KQJ (though, again, we'll see a lot of KQJT from a tight SB RFI).

nhx 6 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for the response.

I thought it was interesting too because the pro didn't elaborate on what he thought his hand looked like to villain. But he did mention how villain would be able to bluff him off many rivers and value bet straights safely against hero's capped range.

But to me, since I do have a c/c range here that includes some made full houses, I wonder how actually "capped" we might be here. And as a result, just how safe it is for BB to be vbetting his straight OTR.

FWIW I do agree that 89x type hands won't be there, nor will QKJ. I think I see weak T and AQ+ show up quite often here as well if river checks through.

Also interesting point I hadn't thought about with the AT blocker. I think that's a nuance not too many others consider.

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