nutwrap on FD board 3way vs c/r w/good relativ pos
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nutwrap on FD board 3way vs c/r w/good relativ pos
BN: $138
SB: $57.35 (Hero)
BB: $50
UTG: $74.73
HJ: $24.28
CO: $106.34
SB: $57.35 (Hero)
BB: $50
UTG: $74.73
HJ: $24.28
CO: $106.34
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
J
J
8
T
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1.30, Hero calls $1.05, BB calls $0.80
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1.30, Hero calls $1.05, BB calls $0.80
Flop
($3.90)
9
4
7
(3 Players)
Hero checks,
BB checks,
BN bets $3.25,
Hero calls $3.25,
BB raises to $16.72,
BN calls $13.47
Both guys seem to be regs, BU opened 5/6 BUs, cbet 4/5 boards.
BB so far very tight with 18/13 but fairly high AFq over also very small sample.
I think preflop is fine, as well as my first c/c, I have good visibility and can bluff diamonds if turn goes x/x.
However after BB pots it and BU just calls I'm not really happy with my hand
anymore, however with great position and visibility for turn jams I'm not sure how much of a fold this is..
Say we call and turn is a blank we can prop x/c even vs 2 opponents, however on hearts, even on
Qh/Kh we don't love our live and propably have (barely) not enough equity to call it off ?
Appreciate your opinions on this one :)
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I don't think you have good position.
You are positionally in the worst sets at sb.
It sucks that bb pots it but I think he's squeezing here thinking it doesn't hit yours and btns range. Maybe he's semi bluffing with fd.
You have 13 card wrap with over pair which I think is good to call and jam on a non diamond board.
Curious to know what the correct play would be here.
I agree with you about BB range when he pots it on this flop, so don't you think it would be better to jam now on this flop making him probably fold is fd (not allowing him to realize that equity) instead of just paying on the flop to jam the turn on non diamonds?
You don't actually expect him top pot/fold with a FD mvppt? in what is likely to be a multiway pot? Especially I wouldnt expect him c/potting many non-nutFDs in the first place that don't have much going with them .
My problem with repot on the flop is how the btn plays a factor.
What is he calling with?nonnutted fd, kings with connected side cards or something like A876ss, A987. It's the reason why I'll call and jam a non diamond turn.
But the spr is so low on the turn that maybe it's good to repot the flop. And like to said to get atleast one of the oppponent to fold.
I like calling ... you have no fold eq
was actually rather discussing calling or folding than jamming.. I think jamming is relentlessly oveplaying what is a wrapdraw on a FD board with 2 players showing interest. I think BB is never folding a hand he has c/pot with here, due to his very tight preflop ranges he is not even gonna have bare twopair hands here, so we're likely looking at a very strong range and a range that is drawing with better equity than we do or possibly blocks us a lot of outs.
Nobody in camp folding here?
I don't think that we can fold here. We need about 20% to call and see the turn which we are likely getting against the ranges if you plug them in to PPT here. I think that calling flop and evaluating the turn is our best approach. I think we have 0 fold equity and we actually play turn well in the sense that we can cut our loss on 4/7/9/d GII with the nuts on 6/8/T/J. Also we might go though the turn for free however on blanks we will likely face an AI from BB, call from BU and we will have another super nice price facing us (~118 pot and ~32 to call).
Also I am pretty sure that we have an equity advantage on the flop against BU (and we are ~40bbs deeper with him) and there could be merit in donk shipping all non diamond turns.
I could be moved to the folding camp though, the difficult thing is that when we do make the nuts we still need to fade diamond and board pairing cards so perhaps a fold could be correct here.
yeah I agree that calling and evaluating on turn is our best approach, it's also what I'd done here. Most funny was that BU was actually holding bottom set and BB hat 97+NFD, we got it in on Qh turn
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